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Renamed and revised night and day as veils. This one is hard to prove, but a bit stronger now. Not sure whether strong enough to be worth keeping, especially the daylight part. Added another verse for backbone and ribs vers

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Added better image (hope that's ok). Removed location of stars as Encyclopedia of the Quran says mawaqi means setting places on the horizon & Lane's lexicon defines as "places of falling". Also the consensus meaning on the academic quran reddit. See edit to the Geocentrism page. Removed moonlight additions;Need to keep to important/compelling points; already a lengthy section. Not enough that there was a missed opportunity to introduce some science when verse is answering question about purpose.

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Olivier Mongellaz recently explained the oven story. Syriac source (attributed in Syriac Targum to Hippolytus, though undateable) has Ham's wife warned by water gushing up through bread oven. Makes sense. Tafsirs similar. The word translated boiled can just mean welled up in the context of water according to Lane. Gabriel Said-Reynolds was persuaded and seems likely correct. Added details to the cosmology, historical errors, and (in more detail) parallels pages.

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→‎The gates of the sky/heaven: Have added the Sky-ways (asbāb) of the sky as a distinct scientific error here, and linked to the main Cosmology article for a much more in-depth explanation.

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→‎Adam and Eve: Have moved the Noah 'two animals' section into the scientific errors section as a more powerful imo genetics bottleneck issue - will leave and add to the practical problems of the account in the historical errors page.

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→‎Permanent barrier between "the two seas" of fresh and salt water: Linking the new page for this to the main scientific errors page.

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→‎The soul in the literal heart: Removing this section as discussed online now the changes have come through :)

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→‎Heavens to be rolled up: Added the 'gates of heaven/sky' verses as an astronomy scientific error.

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→‎Chests contract with altitude: Have added a quick academic reference to back up claim that this is incorrect.

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→‎Seven heavens: I am attempting to add/link the article section 'Science and the Seven Earths - Seven Universes' to the main scientific errors page (via a 'Main Article' link as this covers the topic in much more detail, it is essentially the main article. I've attempted to follow the template instructions, but please assist if I've used it incorrectly. Thank you as always!

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The Quran verse about the singular Pharaoh didn't include the name "Pharaoh". I replaced it by a different verse.

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→‎Meteors as stars fired at devils: If looking to save space on this page - recommend getting rid off this paragraph now we have the main page - ignore this if it's not a problem.

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→‎Meteors as stars fired at devils: Have added an error on the locations of the stars.

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→‎Functions of the heart (cardiocentrism): Linking the idea of the soul literally being inside of the heart (if this update is accepted) as it is related to the concept of cardiocentrism in the quran.

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→‎Mountains and birds sing psalms: I have created a new section for the soul being a thing that literally lives in the heart. And expanded the functions of the heart section with references and linked the two as these ideas are closely related.

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→‎Functions of the heart: Very small edit making the key words in this section to highlight bold, and a short sentence on the wording adding evidence that Dhul-Qurnayn's magic wall will only be destroyed on judgement day, and not before.

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→‎All organisms created in pairs: Added verses specifically confirming god made 'male and female', which contradicts those with mutations not conforming to each sex. As well as a sentence on the negative practical effects of this idea, with sheiks stating they cannot get married.

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→‎Sociology: Have added in a sociology section on this scientific reasons the testimony of a women being half of a mans does not make sense. It also provides a good gateway into 'Islam and Women' (and the unfairness) from this page.

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→‎Nature of the moon's light: Added a sentence on Muhammad/God missing the seemingly perfect opportunity to mention the Earth is reflected light if it was known (and wanted to be conveyed) by the author.

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→‎Noah's worldwide flood: Given the recent expansion on verses and evidence (and likely more coming) in the historical errors section for Noah's flood, I've added a link to the main article to Noah's worldwide flood (rather than increase the length on this page).

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→‎The entire heaven has a night and day: I have added in another scientific error in the description of the day and night as veils in the sky (which is also linked to the above point about being a property of the heavens), rather than coming from the sun or earths movement in the Quran. Also listed and linked a famous tafsir of Al-Razi who supported daylight not coming from the sun due to these verses.

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→‎The existence and attributes of Jinn: Added in one more attribute/verse link.

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→‎The existence of Jinn: Have extended the paragraph to the jinn to include some basic attributes with links as are they such a large topic.

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→‎Meteors as stars fired at devils: Literally just turned the word to italics to match the others for consistency.

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→‎Meteors as stars fired at devils: Just added the word for constellations to this sentence. (And got rid off the previous unnecessary 'and').

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→‎Stars as something that fall: Have added in Verse 82:2 into this section which I also believe is relevant, and cited some major classical commentaries supporting this as a scientific error.

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→‎Setting and rising place of the sun

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→‎Setting and rising place of the sun

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→‎Setting and rising place of the sun

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Added note about the seven earths concept in the near east and for brevity removed a point essentially already made in the torn apart section.

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Best to keep the iron wall under Historical Errors as for many ex-Muslims it was a key topic

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→‎Hordes (Gog and Magog) trapped by an iron wall until judgement day: Adding this ' to explain previous edit - I noticed there were 2 Gog and Magog sections on this page. So I removed one leaving it in the myths section (as they should still be here rather than historical analysis only). And added some context to explain why the wall should still be here according to the Quran, despite the claims of many modern apologists.

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→‎Hordes trapped by iron wall

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→‎Meteors as stars fired at devils: Added in the references to the dictionary as on the shooting stars page.

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→‎Meteors as stars fired at devils: Got rid off the long hadith text and replaced with a link to it instead now that we have the shooting stars page showing the text, and also included the third Al Tirmidhi hadith. I also changed the translation of Q15:16-18 to match the same words as on the main page.

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Rejected the last text change (by CPO675) and restored revision 137570 by CPO675: This is essentially covered already in the paragraph above. Conciseness is very important on this page.

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→‎Arabic as eminently accessible: Added a sentence on the Quran's difficulty to read even in its original language - and linked to the Quran only page which explains the details.

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→‎Earth as spread out and flat: Have added context that the seemingly dishonest adding of the word 'most' in Tafsir Al-Jalalayn isn't actually written - copied from views of the shape of the Earth page.

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Added link to shooting stars, some additional details in other sections plus trimming some text found in the main articles for brevity or due to external feedback

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→‎All organisms created in pairs: Added 'intersex' people into the section and some line spacing to make it easier to read

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Possession point is too incidental so replaced with brief pointer to main article. Character count of this long but important page has increased by 10 percent recently, some of which were minor or dubious supplementary points or excessive detail which will need trimming back at some point.

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→‎The existence of Jinn: 1) I have added in jinn possession as it's own section, as I believe it too be deemed extra contradictory to science than simply jinn existing - going against modern understanding of psychosis responding to medication and therapy. 2) I've also added the words 'and sorcerers' to the magic section to clarify this is magic produced by humans (rather than generic magic caused by God for miracles), and 3) linked onto the scientific miracles section at the end of the page

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→‎The sky/heaven as a guarded ceiling: Corrected spelling and moved out two paragraphs for easier reading :)

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Accidentally removed jstor link while simplfying the other refs. In visual editor, a link within a citation can be given display text or surrounding text by clicking citation, typing some display text for the link, highlighting it, and then clicking the link button.to add the url for that text.

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→‎Seven heavens: Have added in a line explaining that the Earth is never mentioned as being in the 7 heavens (as you would probably expect with modern cosmology understanding), but rather its own separate entity.

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→‎Miracles and myths: I have added the existence of magic into the 'Miracles and myths' section, with a link to the main article on this topic in Wiikislam which elaborates.