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I dnes, není neobvyklé, pro členy kultu, aby dali své mladé děti vůdci kultu, aby si ho "vzal" a sexuálně zneužil.<ref>"''He [Albert Tony Walker] began showing affection to married women, and grooming the group’s younger women to be his “spiritual brides.” He convinced Silva that allowing him to bed her daughters was the right thing to do, talking to her for hours about saving them from “some worldly guy,” she recalled. “He said, ‘God had given us the power to bring on the seed of God, and how great would that be to have your children blessed?’ ” Kalena is a grown woman and mother of two now with honey-brown hair cascading down to her waist. Her clear blue eyes grow tearful when she remembers how Walker began separating her from her mother and siblings at age 11 to fondle her. At 12, he began raping her, telling her he wanted her to bear his child. Eventually, at 16, she did get pregnant.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.ajc.com/news/family-members-who-lost-854282.html|2=2011-10-24}} Family members who lost faith find justice] - Andria Simmons, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, February 27, 2011</ref> Takže pokud by byla nabídnuta Mohamedovi, nijak by to manželství neospravedlnilo.

Co se týče toho, že jej neopustila, obě mladé oběti, 12 a 15 leté, od Warren Jeffse, polygamního vůdce kultu, jej neopustily. Ony "vstoupily do spojení s Jeffsem ochotně, a nezúčastnily se soudu proti němu."<ref name="Warren Jeffs">"''As a prophet of his polygamist sect, Warren Jeffs documented everything he did, keeping track of every marriage he performed, every young woman he wed, and even recording his intimate moments ... Jeffs had 78 wives in addition to his legal spouse, and 24 of them were under age 17, said Eric Nichols, lead prosecutor for the Texas Attorney General's office, which is handling the case ... Jurors deliberated for 3½ hours before finding Jeffs guilty of sexually assaulting two girls, ages 12 and 15, whom he'd wed during what his sect considers "spiritual marriages." Prosecutors used DNA evidence to show Jeffs fathered a child with the older victim and played an audio recording of what they said was him sexually assaulting the younger girl ... Jeffs' sect has more than 10,000 members nationwide who believe polygamy brings exaltation in heaven. Both victims entered into unions with Jeffs willingly, and did not participate in the trial against him. But Nichols said in his closing statement that the crimes were so egregious that under Texas law, convictions did not require the victim to bring charges.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Polygamist-leader-convicted-of-child-sex-assault-1719564.php|2=2011-10-27}} Polygamist leader convicted of child sex assault] - Will Weissert, Associated Press, August 5, 2011</ref> Nezávisle na tom, jestli jej podporují oběti, byl pořád pedofil a byl odsouzen roku 2011 za sexuální zneužívání dětí.

Je běžně známo, že po Chadídžině smrti, Aiša, Mohamedova jediná dětská manželka, byla zároveň jeho oblíbenou manželkou,<ref>Goodwin, Jan. Price of Honour: Muslim Women Lift the Veil of Silence on the Islamic World. UK: Little, Brown Book Group, 1994</ref> a podle islámských ústních tradic, Mohamed preferoval mladé panny, před "matrónami",<ref>"''Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: While we were returning from a Ghazwa (Holy Battle) with the Prophet, I started driving my camel fast, as it was a lazy camel A rider came behind me and pricked my camel with a spear he had with him, and then my camel started running as fast as the best camel you may see. Behold! The rider was the Prophet himself. He said, 'What makes you in such a hurry?" I replied, I am newly married " He said, "Did you marry a virgin or a matron? I replied, "A matron." He said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you may play with her and she with you?" When we were about to enter (Medina), the Prophet said, "Wait so that you may enter (Medina) at night so that the lady of unkempt hair may comb her hair and the one whose husband has been absent may shave her pubic region.''" - {{Bukhari|7|62|16}}</ref><ref>"''Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'''" - {{Bukhari|7|62|17}}</ref> měl sexuální záměry ještě pro minimálně jednu holčičku,<ref>"''(Suhayli, ii. 79: In the riwaya of Yunus I. I. recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu'lFadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, 'If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.' But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. 'Abdu'l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubab...''" - Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, translated by A. Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi]</ref><ref>"''Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, "If she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her."''" - Musnad Ahmad, Number 25636</ref> a toužil po dětské princezně, která byla stále opatrovávaná.<ref>"''Narrated Abu Usaid: We went out with the Prophet to a garden called Ash-Shaut till we reached two walls between which we sat down. The Prophet said, "Sit here," and went in (the garden). The Jauniyya (a lady from Bani Jaun) had been brought and lodged in a house in a date-palm garden in the home of Umaima bint An-Nu'man bin Sharahil, and her wet nurse was with her. When the Prophet entered upon her, he said to her, "Give me yourself (in marriage) as a gift." She said, "Can a princess give herself in marriage to an ordinary man?" The Prophet raised his hand to pat her so that she might become tranquil. She said, "I seek refuge with Allah from you." He said, "You have sought refuge with One Who gives refuge. Then the Prophet came out to us and said, "O Abu Usaid! Give her two white linen dresses to wear and let her go back to her family." Narrated Sahl and Abu Usaid: The Prophet married Umaima bint Sharahil, and when she was brought to him, he stretched his hand towards her. It seemed that she disliked that, whereupon the Prophet ordered Abu Usaid to prepare her and to provide her with two white linen dresses. (See Hadith No. 541).''" - {{Bukhari|7|63|182}}</ref>

Přísná DSM-IV-TR klinická definice pedofilie, která je aplikována na Mohamedovo chování [[Mohamed a klinická definice pedofilie|zde]], také nevyžaduje po člověku být pouze nebo přednostně přitahován dětmi pro pozitivní diagnózu pedofilie. DSM-IV pouze vyžaduje, aby člověk byl sexuálně přitahován dítětem a podlehl této touze alespoň jednou.<ref name="DSM-IV-TR">According to the most stringent clinical definition of pedophilia, the [[Aisha_Age_of_Consummation#Pedophilia_according_to_DSM-IV-TR|DSM-IV-TR]], a pedophile is someone who (1) over a period of at least six months, has had recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger). (2) has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies have caused marked distress or interpersonal difficulties. (3) is at least aged 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion 1. Note: This does not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.</ref>

Samy islámské texty výslovně ruší jakékoliv výzvy kulturního relativismu, které by jinak mohly být namířeny proti Mohamedově manželství. V Sahih Bucharí, Mohamed tvrdil, že to byla Aláhova vůle (skrze sen)<ref>"''....You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.....''" - {{Bukhari|9|87|140}}</ref> aby si vzal Aišu. Nebyla to tedy primitivní Arabská kultura, která vedla k jeho manželství, ale "nadčasová" morálka Aláhova.

Každý kdo toto tvrdí, cituje stejnou stránku New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia.<ref>Charles Souvay - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm|2=2011-10-24}} St. Joseph] - The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 8. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1910. 24 Oct. 2011</ref> To, co nezmiňují je, že tato stránka začíná varováním, "apokryfní literatura je plná detailů, nepřipuštění těchto prací do kánonu svatých knih vrhá silné podezření na jejich obsah''".<ref name="Catholic Encyclopedia 1">"''The chief sources of information on the life of St. Joseph are the first chapters of our first and third Gospels; they are practically also the only reliable sources, for, whilst, on the holy patriarch's life, as on many other points connected with the Saviour's history which are left untouched by the canonical writings, the apocryphal literature is full of details, the non-admittance of these works into the Canon of the Sacred Books casts a strong suspicion upon their contents; and, even granted that some of the facts recorded by them may be founded on trustworthy traditions, it is in most instances next to impossible to discern and sift these particles of true history from the fancies with which they are associated. Among these apocryphal productions dealing more or less extensively with some episodes of St. Joseph's life may be noted the so-called "Gospel of James", the "Pseudo-Matthew", the "Gospel of the Nativity of the Virgin Mary", the "Story of Joseph the Carpenter", and the "Life of the Virgin and Death of Joseph".''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm|2=2011-10-24}} St. Joseph] - Charles Souvay, The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 8. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1910. 24 Oct. 2011</ref>

To, co ve skutečnosti říká, po varování čtenářů ještě jednou, že příběhy jsou "nespolelivé", je, že Marii bylo mezi 12-14 lety v době, kdy si vybírala mezi kandidáty a Prohlášení (prohlášeno andělem Gabrielem ''paně'' zvané Marie, že otěhotní a stane se matkou Ježíše)<ref>[{{Reference archive|1=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annunciation|2=2011-10-24}} Annunciation] - Wikipedia, accessed October 24, 2011</ref> se stalo o dva roky později.<ref name="Catholic Encyclopedia 2">"''It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph's marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother"). A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place. These dreams, as St. Jerome styles them, from which many a Christian artist has drawn his inspiration (see, for instance, Raphael's "Espousals of the Virgin"), are void of authority; they nevertheless acquired in the course of ages some popularity; in them some ecclesiastical writers sought the answer to the well-known difficulty arising from the mention in the Gospel of "the Lord's brothers"; from them also popular credulity has, contrary to all probability, as well as to the tradition witnessed by old works of art, retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm|2=2011-10-24}} St. Joseph] - Charles Souvay, The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 8. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1910. 24 Oct. 2011</ref> To znamená, že Marie měla 14-16 let v době uzavření manželství, ne 12 nebo 9, jako to bylo v případě Mohameda a Aiši. Byla by náctiletou holkou, která může otěhotnět, ne pre-pubescentní holkou.

Popravdě, ta samá stránka New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia pokračuje ve vyprávění o Josefově životě, tvrzením, že jak Marie tak Josef šli do manželství s tím, že nebude nikdy konzumováno.<ref name="Catholic Encyclopedia 4">"''This marriage, true and complete, was, in the intention of the spouses, to be virgin marriage (cf. St. Augustine, "De cons. Evang.", II, i in P.L. XXXIV, 1071-72; "Cont. Julian.", V, xii, 45 in P.L. XLIV, 810; St. Thomas, III:28; III:29:2). But soon was the faith of Joseph in his spouse to be sorely tried: she was with child. However painful the discovery must have been for him, unaware as he was of the mystery of the Incarnation, his delicate feelings forbade him to defame his affianced, and he resolved "to put her away privately; but while he thought on these things, behold the angel of the Lord appeared to him in his sleep, saying: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife, for that which is conceived in her, is of the Holy Ghost. . . And Joseph, rising from his sleep, did as the angel of the Lord had commanded him, and took unto him his wife" (Matthew 1:19, 20, 24).''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm|2=2011-10-24}} St. Joseph] - Charles Souvay, The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 8. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1910. 24 Oct. 2011</ref>

Podle Bible, Marie otěhotněla "silou nejvyššího",<ref>"''And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.''" - Luke 1:35 ([http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+1%3A35&version=KJV King James Version])</ref> což je fráze, která nutně neznamená "oplodnit".

To by vysvětlovalo, proč nevidíme jediného mainstreamového křesťana, který by chtěl legalizovat dětské sňatky na základě toho, že "Svatý Josef to také ([[#Marie si vzala 90-letého Josefa, když jí bylo jen 12, takže Josef je taky pedofil|údajně]]) dělal před 2000 lety", "Král Richard II to dělal před 600 lety"<ref>N.B. poznamenal, že král manželství krále Richarda II k holce nebylo nikdy konzumováno. Přestože navštěvoval svou mladou manželku téměř každý den, žili v oddělených domech a nespali pod jednou střechou, natož ve stejné posteli. Král Richard byl zavražděn, když bylo královně Isabelle jen jedenáct let, a byla v té době stále pannou. Středověcí evropané, především z královské rodiny, často chystali svatby ve kterých jedna nebo obě strany byly prepubescentní. Ale bylo velmi neobvyklé pro takové manželství, aby bylo konzumováno před pubertou.</ref> nebo, že zákaz by byl "ne-křesťanský". Zatímco většina mainstreamových muslimských učenců argumentují pro dětské svatby na základě toho, že "Prorok Mohamed to dělal před 1400 lety",<ref name="University of Houston">Sheik Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baaz, nejvyšší náboženská autorita Saudské Arábie: "''...Pokud je vdaná bez jejího svolení, výhružkou nebo donucením, poté je manželství neplatné. Jedinou výjimkou je když otec provdá dceru, které je méně, než devět let. Není zde újma, pokud ji provdá když jí je méně, než devět let, podle správného názoru. Tohle je založeno na poslu Aláhovu (mír s ním), který si vzal Aišu bez jejího svolení, když byla mladší devíti let, jak je řečeno v autentických hadísech...''" - [http://web.archive.org/web/20040216151301/http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/articles/fatawawom/marriage.html Otázky ohledně manželství/ Je dovoleno otci donutit svoji dceru vzít si určitého muže, kterého si nechce vzít?] - Muslim Students Organization of the University of Houston</ref><ref name="Sheikh Hamoud">Sheikh Hamoud Hashim al-Tharihi, general secretary of the Vice and Virtue Committee and member of the Islah Party in Yemen: "''Protože se toto stalo prorokovi, nemůžeme lidem říct, že je to zakázáno, vdávat se v nízkém věku''" - [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7711554.stm Child marriage and divorce in Yemen] - Jenny Cuff, BBC, November 6, 2008</ref><ref name="Mufti Fazlul">Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini: "''Zákaz dětských sňatků způsobí pochyby o manželství svatého proroka islámu, který si také vzal malou Aišu, když jí bylo jen osm let. Nový zákon [snažící se zrušit dětské sňatky] navržen aktuální vládou [Bangladéše] způsobí pochyby o morálním charakteru proroka. Islám povoluje dětské sňatky a nebude tolerováno pokdu se jakýkoliv vládce pokusí dotknout této záležitosti ve jménu ženských práv.''" - [http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1386/islamist-leader-threatens-of-waging-jihad <!-- Backup link from Jihad Watch {{Reference archive|1=http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/bangladesh-islamic-cleric-threatens-jihad-if-child-marriage-is-banned.html|2=2011-04-23}}  -->Islamist leader threatens of waging Jihad] - Weekly Blitz, April 20, 2011</ref><ref name="Imam Sani">Imam Sani, a Nigerian cleric: "''Child marriage in Islam is permissible. In the Koran there is no specific age of marriage...[If the government imposed new laws against child marriage] There will be violent conflict from the Muslims, saying that 'no, we will not accept this, we'd rather die than accept something which is not a law from Allah.'''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.aina.org/news/20090918145141.htm|2=2011-10-25}} Child Marriage in the Islamic World] - AINA, September 18, 2009</ref><ref name="Sheikh Mohamed Ben">Sheikh Mohamed Ben Abderrahman Al-Maghraoui: "''The marriage of nine-year-old girls is not forbidden because according to the Hadith (the Prophet Mohammed's sayings), Mohammed married Aisha when she was only seven-years-old and he consummated his union when she was nine.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=27880|2=2011-10-25}} Moroccan theologian: Muslim girls can wed at nine] - Middle East Online, September 15, 2008</ref> "prorokovi [[Mohamedovi společníci a pedofilie|společníci to dělali]]"<ref>"''Getting married at an early age is something that is confirmed by the book of Allah, the Sunnah of his Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam), the consensus of the scholars and the actions of the companions, and the Muslims who came after them... There are many Ahadith which confirm that marriage at an early age was widespread among the companions and no one denied its permissibility. Getting married at an early age was not peculiar to the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) as some people think, but it was general for him and for his Ummah. The following are some of the actions of the Sahaba (companions): 1. Ali Ibn Abi Talib, may Allah be pleased with him, married his daughter, Um Kulthum to Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, and she mothered a child before the death of the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam). Omar got married to her while she was young before reaching the age of puberty. This is reported by Ibn Saad in 'Al-Tabaqat'. 2. From Urwa Ibn Zubair: that Zubair, may Allah be pleased with him, married his daughter when she was very young. Reported by Saeed Ibn Mansour, in his Sunnah, and Ibn Abi Shaibah, in Al-musannaf, with a Sahih chain of narration. Al-Shafie said in the book of Al-Um: "Many companions of the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) married their daughters while these were still young.''" - [http://www.webcitation.org/61C5nBLpe <!-- original URL http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=88089 -->Child marriage in Islam], Islamweb, Fatwa No. 88089, June 24, 2004</ref> nebo, že zákaz by byl "ne-islámský".<ref name="Imam Sani"></ref><ref name="Weekly Blitz">[http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1386/islamist-leader-threatens-of-waging-jihad <!-- Backup link from Jihad Watch {{Reference archive|1=http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/bangladesh-islamic-cleric-threatens-jihad-if-child-marriage-is-banned.html|2=2011-04-23}}  -->Islamist leader threatens of waging Jihad] - Weekly Blitz, April 20, 2011</ref><ref name="MESSAGE">yessir - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.abigmessage.com/child-marriage-death-of-13-year-old-bride-after-wedding.html|2=2011-10-25}} Child Marriage - Death Of 13 Year Old Bride After Wedding] - A BIG MESSAGE, April 10, 2010</ref><ref name="IRIN">[{{Reference archive|1=http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=88589|2=2011-10-25}} YEMEN: Deep divisions over child brides] - IRIN, March 28, 2010</ref> V některých případech byl vztah Mohameda a Aiši použit pro efektivní "posunutí času zpět" legalizací dětských manželství v místech, kde byly předtím ilegální.<ref name="World News Australia">[{{Reference archive|1=http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/outcry-over-malaysian-child-marriages-20100804-11fey.html|2=2011-10-25}} Outcry over Malaysian child marriages] - Sydney Morning Herald, August 4, 2010</ref>

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*[http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/childbrides.htm Muhammad, Aisha, Islam, and Child Brides] ''- [[Answering Islam‎]]''

*[http://www.answeringislam.info/Authors/Wood/pedophile.htm Was Muhammad a Pedophile? An Examination of Muhammad’s Relationship with a Nine-Year-Old Girl] ''- [[Answering Islam‎]]''