User talk:IbnPinker

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How to ping other editors?

Hi, I asked a question here. How do I ping other editors to reply?-Raman (talk) 17:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Hey Raman, you just did. If you want to ping an editor directly (so that they get a notification) you have to leave a comment on their talk page, as you just left on mine. As for talk pages for specific articles, editing these will not send a notification to any editor unless those editors are "watching" the page (the little selectable star icon in the top right of the screen). Since activity on the wiki is a bit slow right now, there may not be so many other editors to interact with, but do feel free to msg admins/anyone you see is active via the Special:RecentChanges page. I will go ahead and leave a reply to your question on the rape in islamic law page now. Also, if you haven't already, be sure to review the talk page guidelines Hope that helps. --IbnPinker (talk) 21:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Actually, I just looked into it a bit further. MediaWiki (the wiki software) may notify editors if you link to their page as such: User:Raman. Try tagging me on the rape in Islamic law page, and let me know if this tag here resulted in your receiving a notification. Thanks --IbnPinker (talk) 21:25, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
No, I did not get any notification.-Raman (talk) 01:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Alright, in that case you can only cause someone to receive a notification by posting on their talk page. I will look in to getting a feature added to the site that will result in users being notified any time they are "tagged" (their page linked-to, that is). Let me know if you need anything else.--IbnPinker (talk) 02:32, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
I have made some edits to the Rape in Islamic Law, Kafir (Infidel) and Zina articles, please check if they are acceptable. Thanks —Raman (talk) 14:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your comment about a citation needed template. I made a simple one upon request a while back. https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Template:Citation_Needed It just adds the superscript tag, but if necessary it could at some point be enhanced with things like a link to the template / the relevant policy page, adding the page to a category like https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Category:Citations_Needed, adding an auto date and comment feature for the tooltip like on the wikipedia version. Alternatively, maybe the wikipedia one and its dependancies can be imported somehow.Lightyears (talk) 19:56, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Wonderful, thank you. I will contact exmoose and see if those features can be added. --IbnPinker (talk) 20:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
I have copied some matter from the Wikipedia article on Zina to the WikiIslam article on Zina, please check if it is acceptable. Thanks.—Raman (talk) 21:13, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
I will take a look Raman. For future reference, start a new "thread" on a talk page if introducing a new topic (your comment is not related to the discussion with Lightyears above). Also, all your edits appear on the Recent Edits Page (you don't have to notify anybody to get your edits approved - all the editors can see them on this page and they will be reviewed by an editor as time permits).--IbnPinker (talk) 21:21, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi there if it possible please reintroduce https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars#Main_Page to the main page. Thanks. Sauron

Will work on getting this done, thanks for the suggestion. IbnPinker (talk) 21:47, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Reversions

Hi, IbnPinker. Lightyears reverted my edits and wrote a note here.

He should have edited it to make it conform to the rules here but he reverted it instead. I feel someone more experienced should look at those sentences and edit them to be acceptable here on WikiIslam. Please check the sentences that he removed and add them back to both the articles he has mentioned. Thanks!-Raman (talk) 10:45, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikiquote

The wikiquote article on Kafir has many quotations from the Qur'an. Please copy the verses from the Qur'an and add it to our article also.-Raman (talk) 08:47, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

This is a good idea. It may make more sense to post about it on the talk page for Kafir and/or to add it as a suggestion on tasks page in the "fleshing out" section. Check out this FAQ as a general rule of thumb, by the way. IbnPinker (talk) 18:22, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Wife beating

Hi, in the wife beating article I originally added the part about Sunnah.com sanitizing the Dar-us-Salam translation after learning that the words on Sunnah had suddenly changed to "He gave me a nudge on my chest which I felt". I then checked the Dar-us-Salam edition which is their source translation (Kalamullah.com has the Dar-us-Salam hadith books as pdf scans) and confirmed that they had what Sunnah had used originally before the change: "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain". I just wanted to check whether you had found otherwise? If not, I can change back the explanation. In other words, it's a question of who did the sanitizing - Sunnah or their translation source, D-u-S. As far as I know Dar-us-Salam never changed their translation.

Great catch, my mistake for missing the nuance there. I corrected it to fit the facts you provided. See what you think. Is the translation in the quotebox then taken from the dar-us-salam text or is it a translation by you/another editor. If it is from the original text, then that should also be mentioned in the article. I'm rewriting parts of the page atm to be more neutral/encyclopedic so maybe wait till tomorrow to make any changes or just lmk what else might need to be corrected and I can make the edit to save you time if that helps. IbnPinker (talk) 00:04, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, that looks great. Yes, the translation in the box has the English sentence as found in the D-u-S text (and orginally Sunnah had the same). I just tweaked it slightly to make clear that the English shown here is the original translation, no attempt by us to translate.Lightyears (talk) 00:25, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Splendid. IbnPinker (talk) 00:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Recent changes

Hi Ibnpinker,

as for the tasks page, I removed the tasks I put because I believe they are complicated topics to cover and it would be better to focus on the simpler issues

as for the mutah marriage, yes it seems I used uncredible info and there is a dispute to the authenticity of the narrations in this issue

as for the dhimmah page, i found out that the pact of umar has its own article on the wiki so no need to duplicate.

thanks

Hey, thanks for following up. As for the tasks, you are correct - the pages you removed are of lesser priority. Thus, I have split the 'pages for creation' section into 'higher' and 'lower' priority and move those four suggested pages to the latter category. Regarding mutah marriage, could you instead qualify the language to indicate what is and what is not controversial? If it is all controversial but the existing text does represent one viewpoint, then you can edit the text to say something like 'while the specifics are debated, some hold that... and others disagree', or something to that effect - even better if you can provide sources on which party espouses a given view point. But so long as the text provided represents one legitimate view point, it can be made useful through qualification. Deletion seems counter productive. Finally, I think the Dhimma page would ultimately require a brief section on the pact of umar (without repeating the entire page) since summarizing other articles under related topics is a standard wiki practice (hence the 'main page' template seen used frequently here, for instance). What do you think? IbnPinker (talk) 20:11, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
hi ibnpinker. In light of the revamp wikislam is undergoing, i think it would be wiser if we keep the tasks page concise and including only the utmost imp topics hence why I removed them. As for the mutah marriage, I have revised the info i wrote and found it to be not accurate enough to represent the issue and a bit uncredible, hence why i removed it. I have taken screenshots of the data I wrote to further my research and rewrite this section with more credible info. btw do we have people who speak arabic on our team? i could use some help for an upcoming article idea. Thanks!
You make fair points. I removed the four somewhat obscure topics from the tasks page and accepted your edit to the women in islamic law page. if you intend on replacing that misleading info, please do be sure to getting around to replacing it at some point. Asmith and myself both know Arabic and can help if needed. Working with other editors would be better however since Asmith and I are busy with other work including setting up the Arabic wikiislam. Asmith is working on getting you access to our discord chat where you'll be able to talk with the other Arabic speaking editors. Hold tight till he can get you that, sorry for the delays - we are working on setting up additional security procedures atm. IbnPinker (talk) 18:00, 25 March 2021 (UTC)