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::::That sounds a good approach. If I may recommend which ones to move from (rather than having also on) the sci errors page to the new historical errors page, it'd be the less interesting or famous ones which a visitor on the fence might more easily rationalise away as a mere absense of evidence thing or alternative meaning apologetics: Samaritans in ancient Egypt, John the Baptist's original name; Supernatural destruction of cities; Humans lived hundreds of years, Ancient mosque in Jerusalem. That would leave ones that people often mention as effecting them plus one or two that are quite new and need good exposure: Wall of iron; Mary part of the trinity; Mary and Miriam (popular and significant, though somewhat divides academics); Ezra; David invented coats of mail (very strong but quite new, needs more exposure); crucifixions in ancient Egypt (ditto); Singular Pharaoh; The three Noah's flood sections (a major topic - possibly could become even more concise on this page. The oven boiled is a pretty strong new point that needs the exposure). It's so useful to be able to just share one link rather than two for all types of factual errors (only a small percentage of people would click through to the main historical errors page). I do so regularly, as do countless others, so I'm glad the historical stuff is not being moved completely.[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 10:24, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
::::That sounds a good approach. If I may recommend which ones to move from (rather than having also on) the sci errors page to the new historical errors page, it'd be the less interesting or famous ones which a visitor on the fence might more easily rationalise away as a mere absense of evidence thing or alternative meaning apologetics: Samaritans in ancient Egypt, John the Baptist's original name; Supernatural destruction of cities; Humans lived hundreds of years, Ancient mosque in Jerusalem. That would leave ones that people often mention as effecting them plus one or two that are quite new and need good exposure: Wall of iron; Mary part of the trinity; Mary and Miriam (popular and significant, though somewhat divides academics); Ezra; David invented coats of mail (very strong but quite new, needs more exposure); crucifixions in ancient Egypt (ditto); Singular Pharaoh; The three Noah's flood sections (a major topic - possibly could become even more concise on this page. The oven boiled is a pretty strong new point that needs the exposure). It's so useful to be able to just share one link rather than two for all types of factual errors (only a small percentage of people would click through to the main historical errors page). I do so regularly, as do countless others, so I'm glad the historical stuff is not being moved completely.[[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 10:24, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
::::: Great points you made; implemented the change as you suggested. The pages can evolve on their own now and if we keep around 10 solid ones on the scientific errors page, that should suffice the sharing-one-link purpose. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 12:43, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
::::: Great points you made; implemented the change as you suggested. The pages can evolve on their own now and if we keep around 10 solid ones on the scientific errors page, that should suffice the sharing-one-link purpose. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 12:43, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
==Hadith templates guide==
Hi, I replaced a couple of recent hard coded hadith refs with the templates. There is a page which details how to cite the various alternative hadith referencing systems available on quranx (such as the Dar-us-Salam system) using the templates. I can never remember which page it is at first so here's the link https://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Source_Editing#Referencing_Hadith
It seems there are lots of legacy al-Tirmidhi hard coded refs around the site (often with sunnah.com's erroneous book numbers) but it would take a long time to replace those with the templates. [[User:Lightyears|Lightyears]] ([[User talk:Lightyears|talk]]) 00:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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