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:When replying, add one colon before you start the paragraph. If there is already somebody else's reply, every next reply must add one more colon. No need to write your name in the first sentence. You don't need any special knowledge of hadith. Just start reading and searching them for any topic. About sky: I think 22:65 should be in the same sky section but not Yusuf ali's words. Pickthall and shakir are correct because they dont write "rain" and it is not in the Arabic text. "Pillars" and "A piece of sky can fall on them" is present. Adding the same verses if they dont strengthen the article? Not sure but I was discouraged from doing it. Some sections will have a rolling list of verses. There is variety in the added sky verses so that each of them strengthen the claim of sky being a solid dome over earth. [[Flat Earth and the Quran]] article has most of the flat verses with Arabic word meanings. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:57, 7 September 2014 (PDT) | :When replying, add one colon before you start the paragraph. If there is already somebody else's reply, every next reply must add one more colon. No need to write your name in the first sentence. You don't need any special knowledge of hadith. Just start reading and searching them for any topic. About sky: I think 22:65 should be in the same sky section but not Yusuf ali's words. Pickthall and shakir are correct because they dont write "rain" and it is not in the Arabic text. "Pillars" and "A piece of sky can fall on them" is present. Adding the same verses if they dont strengthen the article? Not sure but I was discouraged from doing it. Some sections will have a rolling list of verses. There is variety in the added sky verses so that each of them strengthen the claim of sky being a solid dome over earth. [[Flat Earth and the Quran]] article has most of the flat verses with Arabic word meanings. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 04:57, 7 September 2014 (PDT) | ||
::Ok, so there is a much more extensive page on the flat earth, but not a cross link from the scientific errors page. About completeness or not I prefer to be complete. It is after all supposed to be an encyclopedia. And you avoid discussions what verse should be cited. And when it is not about science but priorities one can get a better sense of what is important in the Quran. But I don't set the standard here. I think YUSUFALI was not a good choice as the main reference for wikiislam, he differs significantly from most other translators. It seems he tried to create something more acceptable. But I also realize that any choice has its problems and controversy. When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this? Since it is, I think rightly, practice here to cite only one translation here: YUSUFALI.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:54, 7 September 2014 (PDT) | ::Ok, so there is a much more extensive page on the flat earth, but not a cross link from the scientific errors page. About completeness or not I prefer to be complete. It is after all supposed to be an encyclopedia. And you avoid discussions what verse should be cited. And when it is not about science but priorities one can get a better sense of what is important in the Quran. But I don't set the standard here. I think YUSUFALI was not a good choice as the main reference for wikiislam, he differs significantly from most other translators. It seems he tried to create something more acceptable. But I also realize that any choice has its problems and controversy. When adding a verse that is translated significantly different in different translations how to treat this? Since it is, I think rightly, practice here to cite only one translation here: YUSUFALI.--[[User:PW. Jansen|PW. Jansen]] ([[User talk:PW. Jansen|talk]]) 14:54, 7 September 2014 (PDT) | ||
:::1. There is a cross-link right there, under the heading, "[[Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#The_Earth_is_Flat|The Earth is Flat]]". Click on the link and see for yourself (it quite clearly says, "Main Article: Flat Earth and the Qur'an"). | |||
:::2. When has this site claimed it was only an encyclopaedia? As the [[WikiIslam:Policies and Guidelines|policies]] state, "''WikiIslam is not restricted to only being an encyclopedia of Islam. It is there for editors to make use of in contributing and arranging information about Islam in many ways. For example, compiling news, translating media, making lists, collecting images and videos, counter-apologetics, hosting online books and other documents, and so on.''" | |||
:::A list of scientific errors in the Qur'an is clearly not intended to be an Encyclopedic page. Every page has its own requirements. Yes, that page should aim be a "complete" list, but it was never meant to contain a comprehensive analysis of each entry. If it did, that page would be outrageously lengthy and the resulting wall of text would pretty much turn everyone away. That is left to the cross-linked stand-alone pages. | |||
:::3. A quick look through the FAQ (something that all editors should really try at least once), would show that you are in error. If you look under, "[[WikiIslam:Frequently_Asked_Questions#Sources Used|Sources Used]]," it says, "'''''What Qur'an translation do you use?''' Unless otherwise stated, we use the respected and widely accepted translations of Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthal or M. H. Shakir. All Qur'an quotes are taken from the University of Southern California Muslim Students Association's Compendium of Muslim Texts.''" | |||
:::The Pickthal and Shakir translations are both very good translations. Those three were chosen because they are the most readily available and accepted. What is the point of quoting the Qur'an if Muslims won't even accept the translations used? None whatsoever. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 00:35, 8 September 2014 (PDT) | |||