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==Greetings==
Hey, you'll see I moved the contents of this page to your user page for the reasons I mentioned.
Just a quick note on the links you added to the Hijab article, the wiki uses these templates (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Category:Islamic_text_templates) to link to hadith references directly on Quranx.com which, unlike other hadith sites, is strict about preserving the text of the source (the actual published translation itself, I mean, without adding in parenthetical commentary). If you look at how the other templates already being used on the page are formatted I think you'll be able to figure out how to format the ones you added. If you cannot, then look at the template page (e.g. https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Template:Bukhari), that might help. Otherwise just ask for help. Thanks for your work. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 14:25, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
:FYI, because it may not be clear, the only two quran templates used are "Quran" and "Quran-range". The others are probably not helpful. Also don't confuse the non-english templates (e.g. "Buhari" for Bukhari in Turkish) with the english ones. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 14:28, 5 June 2021 (UTC)


Greetings my friends. I try to get around WikiIslam and make sure I do not break things. If I do, please do let me know here.
:: Hey IbnPinker. First off, thank you guys for allowing me to contribute. About imam Bukhari - no problem. I know from experience sunnah.com isn't too honest about the translation. I plan on compiling cases for sunnah.com intentionally deceiving in their English translation. I'm happy to use the template. However, sunnah.com seems to be the main hadith source nowadays, and it seems Muslims deprecate "USC-MSA web (English) reference". Whichever Bukhari hadith you go to on sunnah.com, it'd show at the bottom of the page, that the reference is deprecated. To be honest, I would not trust any online Muslim translation (including quranx), because unlike the books (after printing), they can 'correct' their hadiths after the fact.


My nickname, Graves, is for a reason. To give about 25% of the information, if my Muslim ancestors not only submitted to Islam, but really knew about it and how they were lied, they would've turned in their Graves
:: I'm also writing this article, [[User:Graves/Sandbox_1]] , let me know what you think. It's still work in progress, but still, what do you think


Insofar, the following I plan on writing to WikiIslam,
:: [[User:Graves|Graves]] ([[User talk:Graves|talk]]) 19:17, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 
* [[Changes to the Qur'an during Muhammad by the sahaba]] ([[Sandbox/Changes to the Qur'an during Muhammad by the sahaba]]) - YES that's right. I can't (yet) come up with a better name. Nonetheless, I think this information is crazy, given "the Quran is perfectly preserved".
 
* [[Shiite whale "fetish"]] ([[Sandbox/Shiite whale "fetish"]]) - NOT to be confused with [[The Islamic Whale]]. There can be correlations, but Shia information takes it a step further. Which is important not only for the Shia Islam research, but also to give an idea what early Muslims thought in the past, including the firm belief in the [[Flat Earth and the Quran]]
 
* [[Known instances of deliberate dishonesty on Sunnah.com]] ([[Sandbox/Known instances of deliberate dishonesty on Sunnah.com]]) - This is getting increasingly important, due to the increasing usage of Sunnah.com by the Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Unlike the printed Islamic books that tell the same no matter how much time passes, Sunnah.com makes hadiths less  and less honestly-translated in real-time all the time.
 
Regardless, this is a good page for me know of something.

Latest revision as of 19:18, 5 June 2021

Hey, you'll see I moved the contents of this page to your user page for the reasons I mentioned. Just a quick note on the links you added to the Hijab article, the wiki uses these templates (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Category:Islamic_text_templates) to link to hadith references directly on Quranx.com which, unlike other hadith sites, is strict about preserving the text of the source (the actual published translation itself, I mean, without adding in parenthetical commentary). If you look at how the other templates already being used on the page are formatted I think you'll be able to figure out how to format the ones you added. If you cannot, then look at the template page (e.g. https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Template:Bukhari), that might help. Otherwise just ask for help. Thanks for your work. IbnPinker (talk) 14:25, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

FYI, because it may not be clear, the only two quran templates used are "Quran" and "Quran-range". The others are probably not helpful. Also don't confuse the non-english templates (e.g. "Buhari" for Bukhari in Turkish) with the english ones. IbnPinker (talk) 14:28, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey IbnPinker. First off, thank you guys for allowing me to contribute. About imam Bukhari - no problem. I know from experience sunnah.com isn't too honest about the translation. I plan on compiling cases for sunnah.com intentionally deceiving in their English translation. I'm happy to use the template. However, sunnah.com seems to be the main hadith source nowadays, and it seems Muslims deprecate "USC-MSA web (English) reference". Whichever Bukhari hadith you go to on sunnah.com, it'd show at the bottom of the page, that the reference is deprecated. To be honest, I would not trust any online Muslim translation (including quranx), because unlike the books (after printing), they can 'correct' their hadiths after the fact.
I'm also writing this article, User:Graves/Sandbox_1 , let me know what you think. It's still work in progress, but still, what do you think
Graves (talk) 19:17, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
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