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:::::::::::: I've been looking at the QHS:FGM page and it occurs to me that there's something that needs improvement. If you go to the Hadith section (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Female_Genital_Mutilation#Hadith) to where it says "To 'sit amidst four parts' of a woman is a euphemism for sexual intercourse" - it's not clear if the note applies to the previous quote or the subsequent one. Could the 'quote' template be adapted to include a 'notes' field, so it's clear to which quote a note applies? I appreciate that it's just a detail, and that any half-attentive reader will realise which quote the note applies to, but think it's a much about getting the feel and look of the content right - making the page more 'comfortable'. I'm guessing that adding a field after the 'source' field would do the job, but it's not apparent how this might be done. [[User:Flynnjed|Flynnjed]] ([[User talk:Flynnjed|talk]]) 07:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC) | :::::::::::: I've been looking at the QHS:FGM page and it occurs to me that there's something that needs improvement. If you go to the Hadith section (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Female_Genital_Mutilation#Hadith) to where it says "To 'sit amidst four parts' of a woman is a euphemism for sexual intercourse" - it's not clear if the note applies to the previous quote or the subsequent one. Could the 'quote' template be adapted to include a 'notes' field, so it's clear to which quote a note applies? I appreciate that it's just a detail, and that any half-attentive reader will realise which quote the note applies to, but think it's a much about getting the feel and look of the content right - making the page more 'comfortable'. I'm guessing that adding a field after the 'source' field would do the job, but it's not apparent how this might be done. [[User:Flynnjed|Flynnjed]] ([[User talk:Flynnjed|talk]]) 07:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::::: Just thinking - wouldn't the 'FGM as un-Islamic' section be better at the end of the FGM in Islamic law section? rather than on the 'FGM in Islam' page - which is shaping up to be very much the History and Sociology of FGM? [[User:Flynnjed|Flynnjed]] ([[User talk:Flynnjed|talk]]) 04:12, 16 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::: I've just been working on the 'FGM as un-Islamic' section and am not so sure that it would fit at the end of the 'FGM in Islam page' (as suggested in the previous message). But nor does it doesn't fit at the end of the 'FGM in Islam' page (or whatever that page's name should be). Maybe 'FGM as un-Islamic' should have its own page? [[User:Flynnjed|Flynnjed]] ([[User talk:Flynnjed|talk]]) 18:17, 16 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::::: Could you upload the following images please? I know that they are a bit much (I can't look at these without tearing-up) - but I'm wanting to clarify a subsidiary element of Islamic FGM -that anaesthetics are not used even when available because pain is part of FGM's functionality. [[User:Flynnjed|Flynnjed]] ([[User talk:Flynnjed|talk]]) 03:50, 17 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::::: Here are the images - are you still unable to upload them yourself? I believe your editing permissions were updated: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/File:Fgm-in-the-middle-east.jpg, https://wikiislam.net/wiki/File:Endfgm-campaign-video-016.jpg, https://wikiislam.net/wiki/File:Indonesia_-_susanfemalecircumcision-1.jpg | |||
:::::::::::::::: The title you suggest for the main FGM page is good, but sounds more like a journal article than a wiki article. If the origins, history, and sociology of FGM in Islam (plus a short summary of FGM in Islamic law) makeup the crux of what there is to say about the topic, then the article is generally comprehensive enough for it to be entitled as "FGM in Islam". If, on the other hand, there is more to say on the topic, then it is ok if it is presently incomplete - wiki articles are perpetual works in progress (the missing content will eventually be added). On the other hand, if you feel that you have so much to say about the origins and history and sociology of FGM in Islam that this discussion cannot be reasonably contained in an article aimed at giving a general overview of FGM in Islam - then we can make another page: we could have FGM in Islam, FGM in Islamic Law (a heavy section needing elaboration in its own article), ''and'' The Origins, History, and Sociology of Islam. If we take this latter route, the contents of this new third article would just be summarized under a header in the main, overview article (FGM in Islam), just like the content from the FGM in Islamic Law is included in summary fashion in the main article. Does that make sense? If so, you may proceed as you prefer - I can create that new page if you'd like. I just think it is wise to limit the number of pages to the minimum necessary to avoid complexifying things - but it may also be that creating more pages in this case is actually the simpler route. | |||
:::::::::::::::: For the QHS quote and the ambiguous comment you mentioned, you could just introduce a word like 'the above quote' or 'the below quote' to clearly indicate what a passage is referring too. As for 'FGM as un-Islamic', I agree that this is better suited to the FGM in Islamic Law page. [[User:IbnPinker|IbnPinker]] ([[User talk:IbnPinker|talk]]) 21:02, 18 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::::::::: "are you still unable to upload them yourself? I believe your editing permissions were updated" - I tried uploading them, but I get "You do not have permission to create new pages." I'll keep the 'FGM as un-Islamic' section at the end of the Islamic Law page - but it might all be a bit long. I'm happy to stick with 'FGM in Islam' if it keeps things effective and efficient. | |||
Hi, I know I've been away for a long time - working on other projects. I hope to get onto doing a page for (male) circumcision soon. I've noticed that the archive links for the FGM pages are all down. Evidently the archive machine I used was not reliable and I need to redo them. Can anyone recommend a reliable archive machine? [[User:Flynnjed|Flynnjed]] ([[User talk:Flynnjed|talk]]) 07:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC) | |||