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(Added image. Removed/merged oven section. Olivier Mongellaz recently explained the oven story. Syriac source (attributed in Syriac Targum to Hippolytus, though undateable) has Ham's wife warned by water gushing up through bread oven. Makes sense. Tafsirs similar. The word translated boiled can just mean welled up in the context of water according to Lane. Gabriel Said-Reynolds is persuaded and likely correct. Grammar fixes inc. many "it's" to "its" as no apostrophe for possessive its in English.)
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===Arabian idols from the time of Noah===
===Arabian idols from the time of Noah===
Five gods from the time of Noah are mentioned in one verse. Strangely, according to Ibn Abbas these happened to be idols worshipped by Arab tribes at the time of Muhammad. Some such as Wadd have been confirmed from Southern Arabian inscriptions in the centuries preceding Islam.<ref>[https://brill.com/display/title/69380?language=en ''Muḥammad and His Followers in Context:'' ''The Religious Map of Late Antique Arabia'']: 209 (Islamic History and Civilization) Nov. 2023. Ilkka Lindstedt. pp. 66</ref> It is far fetched even on the Quran's own terms to place Arab idols back in the time of Noah, not least since all the disbelievers of Noah's time were supposedly destroyed by the flood.  
Five gods from the time of Noah are mentioned in one verse. Strangely, according to Ibn Abbas these happened to be idols worshipped by Arab tribes at the time of Muhammad. Some such as Wadd have been confirmed from Southern Arabian inscriptions in the centuries preceding Islam,<ref>[https://brill.com/display/title/69380?language=en ''Muḥammad and His Followers in Context:'' ''The Religious Map of Late Antique Arabia'']: 209 (Islamic History and Civilization) Nov. 2023. Ilkka Lindstedt. pp. 66</ref> and Nasr has been found in both North and Southern Arabian Epigraphy.<ref>Neuwirth, Angelika. ''The Qur'an: Text and Commentary, Volume 2.1: Early Middle Meccan Suras: The New Elect (p. 282)''. Yale University Press. Kindle Edition.
 
''The names are also attested outside of the Qurʾan and are partly classified as Old South Arabian (on Wadd see Horovitz, KU, 150; on Nasr, known from epigraphic testimonies in southern and northern Arabia, see KU, 144; on Yaghūth and Yaʿūq see KU, 153, and generally Wellhausen 1897: 19–22).''</ref> It is far fetched even on the Quran's own terms to place Arab idols back in the time of Noah, not least since all the disbelievers of Noah's time were supposedly destroyed by the flood.  


{{Quote|{{Quran-range|71|21|23}}|Noah said, "My Lord, indeed they have disobeyed me and followed him whose wealth and children will not increase him except in loss. And they conspired an immense conspiracy. And said, 'Never leave your gods and never leave Wadd or Suwa' or Yaghuth and Ya'uq and Nasr.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran-range|71|21|23}}|Noah said, "My Lord, indeed they have disobeyed me and followed him whose wealth and children will not increase him except in loss. And they conspired an immense conspiracy. And said, 'Never leave your gods and never leave Wadd or Suwa' or Yaghuth and Ya'uq and Nasr.}}
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