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Removed long but irrelevant academic quote and reddit link to google translation of tafsirs (need to use credible sources, already have similar link to better source). Corrected another change as the earliest tafsirs rarely comment on the literalism of the muddy spring story but focus on the variant readings "muddy" or "hot", not to be confused with interpretation. Removed another unimportant addition which interupted an argument flow. Added debunk of a new "diameters" argument.

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→‎The spring where the sun sets: Added in part 2 to this section.

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→‎Mount Qaf: Added two notable exegetes with links to this on an Islamic website.

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→‎The Earth on the back of the Islamic Whale: Have added another popular exegetical tradition of Mount Qaf (also found in commentary on other verses like Mutaqil Ibn Suliman having Dhul-Qarnayn travel there in Surah 18) supporting a flat Earth cosmology, and provided an academic reference for it. Also linked to the general Wikipedia page for those looking for more info.

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→‎Qur'an 18:86 and 18:90 - setting and rising places of the sun: Minor changes of text from links and highlighting both sun setting in a muddy spring articles, as I believe the second is best.

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→‎Qur'an 71:19 - bisaatan ("carpet"): Added in a similar parallel, and mention of hell as a spread-out resting place linked to other views on hell being the lowest disc on the seven earths. Referenced Nicolai Sinai's book.

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→‎Direct references to a flat Earth in the Qur'an: Have added a small sentence on other uses of 'al-ard' as the whole earth linked on Quran Corpus, which I believe shows the context more clearly. And a small paragraph at the end on how easy it would be to state a verse is from the human perspective without the flat-earth cosmological view.

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→‎Flat Earth in tafsirs: Added further academic references to back up statements that before the translation movement religious authorities/Muslims believed, based on the Quran, that the earth was flat.

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Added a source

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→‎Ibn Kathir (d. 1373): Added in verse showing Ibn Kathir was directly aware of astronomer's works when writing the tafsir - highlighting the connection between them and the influence they had on later tafsirs.

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→‎The spring where the sun sets: Added another important early tafsir (the earliest) on this verse confirming the literal setting (rising and) place of the sun in a hot muddy spring, which is of course only possible on a flat Earth.

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→‎Flat Earth in the hadiths: Added in a link to the Science and the Seven Earths pages where relevant. And a small line highlighting (and linking to) the many verses Al-Jalalayn believed showed a clear flat earth - not only the one listed.

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→‎The spring where the sun sets: Have added in the point that I don't think has been made before - that alongside the many early tafsir writers listed as being flat-earthers, so mostly likely were all the major hadith collectors, who were themselves key scholars of early Islam.

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→‎Greek astronomical knowledge: I have added in another section from an Islamic scholar on Greek astronomical knowledge being advanced upon and gaining traction with caliph sponsorship, highlighting one of Al-Ma'mun's accomplishments and patronaging, which can explain how later tafsir/commentators gained this knowledge.

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→‎The spring where the sun sets: I've also added in an article from a scholar on this topic with a link to an excellent article discussing this issue.

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→‎The spring where the sun sets: have added a link to a much longer list of Islamic scholars/tafsirs on this verse showing how it was taken before round Earth views were spread.

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→‎Qur'an 2:144 - praying towards the Ka'bah

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→‎Qur'an 2:144 - praying towards the Ka'bah

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→‎The Earth is flat, but only from a human perspective: Added in two more sentences adding to summarising the argument from a 'human perspective'. Corrected a typo. And added in links to other relevant wikiilsam pages, as well as one to the modern Flat Earth Society which lists these verses, along with many other religions verses as support for their theory - while this is more humorous than 'scholarship', I believe it is fitting in the 'See Also' section as it still drives the point.

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Dahaha used for flat earth in poem by Zayd b. 'Amr

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79:30 deserves to be in main section too

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→‎39:5 - night and day wrapped over each other

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→‎Oblate vs prolate spheroids (earth vs egg shape)

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Context added for verses (almost all the direct verses are expressly in the context of the creation of the entire heavens and earth)

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→‎Qur'an 2:187 and 17:78 - fasting and prayer times

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→‎Oblate vs prolate spheroids (egg vs earth shapes)

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Estimate of time argument