User talk:PW. Jansen: Difference between revisions

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The first step would be to search and collect all Heaven related verses, hadiths and scholar quotes or at least the important ones that we want to show, and then the next step is to organize them. Quran 56:36, 78:33 and others (like the #15 reference there which is a hadith) can be in the "Carnal Pleasures" section for example. So yea its a pretty big project but here you go. Thats my input on this. I think I've seen our original page before and did feel it wasnt complete so if you can work on it that would be nice. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] ([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]]) 14:00, 18 September 2014 (PDT)

::: Thanks for you reply Axius. I know the page is far from complete, and it is a reorganization of the original page, this means that I did not cut back on blocks of quotations, that is why the carnal pleasures were include in the furniture section. The same block of text is in the "Garden" section and in the "Pleasant Company" section. It is a matter of choice if you want to cut it back to the part that only contains "Furniture". Before a heated discussion rises again, let's all realize that any grouping is controversial. Dealing with issues one by one:

1) Do you or another editor agree with my choice that a whole section of Qur'an is included even if only one sentence refers to subject in the header? Or do you think only that very sentence should be quoted. Like the issue you mentioned: should the whole "heavenly" quote from the Qur'an, including the "pleasant company" part be quoted under the "furniture" section even if only one sentence in it refers to furniture?

2) If my page is better than the original it is best to copy it asap to the old heaven page, to avoid that one has to maintain two pages on the same subject. No quote has been left out from the original page.

3) I kept in mind the reply from Sahab about quoting things more than once, and that means that they will not be marked as such.

4) "Pleasant Company" suggests carnal pleasures but do not state them as such. That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header.

5) Where more than one verse is quoted I make the new verse start on a new line. That is why the layout looks different from the original page.

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 The first step would be to search and collect all Heaven related verses, hadiths and scholar quotes or at least the important ones that we want to show, and then the next step is to organize them. Quran 56:36, 78:33 and others (like the #15 reference there which is a hadith) can be in the "Carnal Pleasures" section for example. So yea its a pretty big project but here you go. Thats my input on this. I think I've seen our original page before and did feel it wasnt complete so if you can work on it that would be nice. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 14:00, 18 September 2014 (PDT)
+::: Thanks for you reply Axius. I know the page is far from complete, and it is a reorganization of the original page, this means that I did not cut back on blocks of quotations, that is why the carnal pleasures were include in the furniture section. The same block of text is in the "Garden" section and in the "Pleasant Company" section. It is a matter of choice if you want to cut it back to the part that only contains "Furniture". Before a heated discussion rises again, let's all realize that any grouping is controversial. Dealing with issues one by one: <br>
+) Do you or another editor agree with my choice that a whole section of Qur'an is included even if only one sentence refers to subject in the header? Or do you think only that very sentence should be quoted. Like the issue you mentioned: should the whole "heavenly" quote from the Qur'an, including the "pleasant company" part be quoted under the "furniture" section even if only one sentence in it refers to furniture? <br>
+) If my page is better than the original it is best to copy it asap to the old heaven page, to avoid that one has to maintain two pages on the same subject. No quote has been left out from the original page. <br>
+) I kept in mind the reply from Sahab about quoting things more than once, and that means that they will not be marked as such. <br>
+) "Pleasant Company" suggests carnal pleasures but do not state them as such. That is why I prefer "Pleasant Company" as a header. <br>
+) Where more than one verse is quoted I make the new verse start on a new line. That is why the layout looks different from the original page. <br>

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