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|The Quran is the eternal word of Allah, existing before the world exists (for example, the Quran being the Mother of the Book, written on the stone tablets)||The Quran has been changed by the mere people, and therefore isn't eternal.||Assume the Quran is the eternal word of Allah at some point of time. After the Quran successfully has been changed by the sahaba, the Quran they have after the event is no longer the eternal word of Allah. Therefore, either the verses alleged to mean that the Quran is eternal word of Allah mean something different, or the Quran is false. | |The Quran is the eternal word of Allah, existing before the world exists (for example, the Quran being the Mother of the Book, written on the stone tablets)||The Quran has been changed by the mere people, and therefore isn't eternal.||Assume the Quran is the eternal word of Allah at some point of time. After the Quran successfully has been changed by the sahaba <i>within time continuum</i>, the Quran they have after the event is no longer the eternal word of Allah <i>outside the time continuum</i>. Therefore, either the verses alleged to mean that the Quran is eternal word of Allah mean something different, or the Quran is false. | ||
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|The Quran is perfectly preserved, right down to the letter.||The Quran has been changed||After the Quran successfully has been changed by the sahaba at least once, the Quran is changed | |The Quran is perfectly preserved, right down to the letter.||The Quran has been changed||After the Quran successfully has been changed by the sahaba at least once, the Quran is changed. If the Quran says that no word(s) of the <i>Quran</i> can be changed, then the Quran must be false. | ||
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| The only author of the Quran is Allah || The Quran is at least partially authored or edited by the sahaba. || 1. If sahaba successfully changed the Quran the Quran is at least partially authored or edited by the sahaba | |||
2. <i>Possible escalation:</i> If "We" in the Quran only refers to both the authorship of the Quran and the deity to be worshipped, Islam reduces to polytheism. | |||
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| Allah's word is eternal and cannot be changed || Allah's word in the Quran (Quran 3:4) was successfully changed and therefore isn't eternal || Allah's word <i>outside the time continuum</i> has been changed by the sahaba <i>within the time continuum</i>, and therefore isn't eternal. | |||
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Revision as of 18:47, 3 June 2021
Not to be confused with Convenient Revelations
Changes to the Qur'an during Muhammad by the sahaba (or changes to the Qur'an during Muhammad by the followers) are the instances when the sabaha would be able to successfully intervene and amend the Quranic revelations.
The instances are listed in the order of the relevance.
The criteria
The following are the criteria for the instance(s) to be included in the article,
- Muhammad has a revelation.
- The revelation is either meant to be part of the Quran, or is part of the Quran.
- The sahaba changes the revelation after the fact.
Why is this important?
The article aims to deliver all currently known instances of the changes made by the sahaba. However, just one instance of the changing of the Quran is enough to have all the consequences below.
The issue, if successfully proven, falsifies many of the narratives provided by the modern Muslim leadership. Below is the incomplete list of the incomplete list of the claims that must be false.
| Muslim leadership narrative | The necessary conclusion | Reasoning |
|---|---|---|
| The Quran is the eternal word of Allah, existing before the world exists (for example, the Quran being the Mother of the Book, written on the stone tablets) | The Quran has been changed by the mere people, and therefore isn't eternal. | Assume the Quran is the eternal word of Allah at some point of time. After the Quran successfully has been changed by the sahaba within time continuum, the Quran they have after the event is no longer the eternal word of Allah outside the time continuum. Therefore, either the verses alleged to mean that the Quran is eternal word of Allah mean something different, or the Quran is false. |
| The Quran is perfectly preserved, right down to the letter. | The Quran has been changed | After the Quran successfully has been changed by the sahaba at least once, the Quran is changed. If the Quran says that no word(s) of the Quran can be changed, then the Quran must be false. |
| The only author of the Quran is Allah | The Quran is at least partially authored or edited by the sahaba. | 1. If sahaba successfully changed the Quran the Quran is at least partially authored or edited by the sahaba
2. Possible escalation: If "We" in the Quran only refers to both the authorship of the Quran and the deity to be worshipped, Islam reduces to polytheism. |
| Allah's word is eternal and cannot be changed | Allah's word in the Quran (Quran 3:4) was successfully changed and therefore isn't eternal | Allah's word outside the time continuum has been changed by the sahaba within the time continuum, and therefore isn't eternal. |