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:: The problem is that this article deals with the Islamic propaganda claims in a very historically inaccurate manner- for example, the author claims that the Islamic achievements in Mathematics were simply appropriated from the Babylonians; in fact, this is false: although it is true that the Babylonians did invent mathematics, he ignores contributions that Arabs made to mathematics, such as the work of al-Khwarizmi and Abu Kamil, who in fact primarily based their work on Greek or Indian mathematics, not Babylonian. For example, al-Kwarizmi created one of the first detailed tables of trigometric functions, which is something the Babylonians did not accomplish, but was actually extrapolated from the works of the Indian mathematicians. [[Special:Contributions/99.225.71.144|99.225.71.144]] 12:49, 9 January 2013 (PST)
:: The problem is that this article deals with the Islamic propaganda claims in a very historically inaccurate manner- for example, the author claims that the Islamic achievements in Mathematics were simply appropriated from the Babylonians; in fact, this is false: although it is true that the Babylonians did invent mathematics, he ignores contributions that Arabs made to mathematics, such as the work of al-Khwarizmi and Abu Kamil, who in fact primarily based their work on Greek or Indian mathematics, not Babylonian. For example, al-Kwarizmi created one of the first detailed tables of trigometric functions, which is something the Babylonians did not accomplish, but was actually extrapolated from the works of the Indian mathematicians. [[Special:Contributions/99.225.71.144|99.225.71.144]] 12:49, 9 January 2013 (PST)
:::Well, Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks and Indians had all made contributions to trigonometry prior to Muslims and Westerners. His letter is a very brief reply to a very brief segment of a speech. I've just reread it, and he only spends a single sentence on discussing mathematics. He is using hyperbole which is unfair because Muslim scholars did make some valid contributions to science (even if their contributions are wildly exaggerated), but he's no less guilty than whom he is replying to (Carly Fiorina seems to be under the impression that we'd all still be cave-dwelling neanderthals if it weren't for Muslim imperialists conquering the Middle-East, North Africa and parts of Europe. It's absolutely ridiculous of her to insinuate that discoveries attributed to Muslims are solely responsible for today's computers etc., considering all discoveries are but links in a wider chain). It may or may not be perfect but there are plenty of valid points made (e.g. Assyrian's were responsible for pointed arches and many of the doctors/scholars/scientist etc., who are assumed to be Arab Muslims were in fact Assyrian Christians like Hunayn ibn-Ishaq) and it's certainly more accurate than Carly Fiorina's speech regarding a mythical Muslim paradise on earth. He provides his references (e.g. History of Babylonian Mathematics, by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_E._Neugebauer Neugebauer]) so he could probably argue his case with Fiorina if she was so inclined. As for the site, it's not WikiIslam that's making any of the claims. It's just being hosted here as a part of its online library of documents and books. --[[User:Sahabah|Sahabah]] ([[User talk:Sahabah|talk]]) 15:14, 9 January 2013 (PST)


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