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Also I feel editors who have been told not to edit main space should not be listed on the Editors [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Meet_the_Editors] page. I'm guessing you'd agree with that. That would only mean removing Saggy (which I had added myself). I feel we want to represent editors who display at least a minimum level of good judgement. That would mean that if they've been asked not to edit main space, that doesnt show good judgement and we dont want people to see them and think they are examples of good editors. Nothing bad on them of course. If they improve their work in Sandboxes they can always be considered regular editors when they are allowed back on main space (slim chance of that happening but we want to be open to that possibility otherwise we might appear to be unkind). I've included this [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=WikiIslam%3AMeet_the_Editors&diff=109814&oldid=109618 note] as a comment on that page. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 09:55, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
Also I feel editors who have been told not to edit main space should not be listed on the Editors [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Meet_the_Editors] page. I'm guessing you'd agree with that. That would only mean removing Saggy (which I had added myself). I feel we want to represent editors who display at least a minimum level of good judgement. That would mean that if they've been asked not to edit main space, that doesnt show good judgement and we dont want people to see them and think they are examples of good editors. Nothing bad on them of course. If they improve their work in Sandboxes they can always be considered regular editors when they are allowed back on main space (slim chance of that happening but we want to be open to that possibility otherwise we might appear to be unkind). I've included this [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=WikiIslam%3AMeet_the_Editors&diff=109814&oldid=109618 note] as a comment on that page. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 09:55, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:Yeah, I agree about the "Meet the Editors" page. I'll do that now. Concerning a "Editing Permissions" page, the idea is good, but I don't think the "Pending Changes Protection" page needs to be renamed for it. Rather, the "Editing Permissions" page could be its own separate page that links out from the "Pending Changes Protection" page (probably could add an inline link from [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Pending_Changes_Protection#Can_my_edits_be_reviewed_automatically.3F this] section]). The subject of both pages is pretty distinct and so will be the pages linking to them. The new "Editing Permissions" page could include content from [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Help:Contents#New_Users this] section of the help page. Maybe it shouldn't be called "Editing Permissions" but some other name that makes it clear that it is the first port of call for new editors? [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:17, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:Yeah, I agree about the "Meet the Editors" page. I'll do that now. Concerning a "Editing Permissions" page, the idea is good, but I don't think the "Pending Changes Protection" page needs to be renamed for it. Rather, the "Editing Permissions" page could be its own separate page that links out from the "Pending Changes Protection" page (probably could add an inline link from [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Pending_Changes_Protection#Can_my_edits_be_reviewed_automatically.3F this] section]). The subject of both pages is pretty distinct and so will be the pages linking to them. The new "Editing Permissions" page could include content from [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Help:Contents#New_Users this] section of the help page. Maybe it shouldn't be called "Editing Permissions" but some other name that makes it clear that it is the first port of call for new editors? [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:17, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
::Yea I guess it would be better to have a new page on it. I cant think of any other name other than Editing permissions. Hmmmmm. How about these titles from Wikipedia:
::* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_access_levels
::* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_restrictions
::* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editorial_oversight_and_control
::* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Quality_control
::--[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:55, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
:::Actually, after reading [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Help:Contents#New_Users this] section of the help page again, isn't that what you basically want to put on this new page? In that case, what about, "[[WikiIslam:Note to New Users]]," or "[[WikiIslam:Message to New Users]]"? That page could then also mention and link to the Required Reading list. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 20:36, 22 September 2014 (PDT)
::::Ok I'll try to expand that section on the Help page first and see how it looks and then maybe move it to a new page. Maybe I just need to add a few lines. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 03:48, 23 September 2014 (PDT)
:::::No need. I've created [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Message_to_New_Users that page] for you :) That what quicker to complete than I expected. I've now linked it from other pages etc. Let me know what you think. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 09:39, 24 September 2014 (PDT)
::::::Thats great. I think its a good idea to have a page just for new editors so they're more likely to read it and take this stuff more seriously. I linked it on [[MediaWiki:Welcomecreation]]. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:13, 25 September 2014 (PDT)
:::::::Thanks for fixing the Account Creation page. The policies group looks good drawing more attention to it. All of the recent changes should help quality control. And Sandbox pages look good too. I'll see if there's an easy way to auto populate sandbox pages with that template. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 03:34, 26 September 2014 (PDT)
::::::::No probs. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 07:49, 26 September 2014 (PDT)
== Honorable mentions section on pages ==
How about linking Tarek Fateh's tweet on the What people say page (only because he's well known) and maybe a mention of this on the About page [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam#Muslims]? Throwing out some ideas.
Here's another idea. What about a section called "Honorable Mentions" at the bottom of a page if it was linked in such a way? People would love to know that and I know that would make them look at the page a second time and have greater respect for it. This will definitely encourage people to make more permanent (like a link on their website or blog) and temporary links (such as a post on a forum) to that page. This will also encourage other famous people to make such mentions (its a snowball effect).
I've also thought of having some kind of notes at the bottom of a page if for example a former Muslim mentions it saying that he was influenced by that page. This kind of information is interesting to readers. We know that there arent too many such pages. Maybe we can start tracking these kinds of things somewhere and when there's a lot we can do something about it (like how we did with the "What people say" page). Or a "Page Facts" / "About this page" / "Trivia" / "Page Trivia" section at the bottom (it could be a right-aligned box too so its less instrusive) where we can mention interesting tidbits like this about a page. For example the Page Trivia could have ''"1. Famous person X linked to this page. 2. Former Muslim Y was influnced by this page and mentioned it in their testimony. 3. This page was ... [XYZ] (something else interesting about this page)."''
Definitely food for thought later on, if not now. Anyway whatever you think. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 18:05, 6 November 2014 (PST)
:Tarek Fatah is a critic of Islam. Everything he is known for, his activism, books, talks, and so on, is geared towards this. He has also been labelled an "Islamophobe" and has been likened to Robert Spencer. In some ways, he's probably more hated by Muslims than Robert, Ali, etc., because he self-identifies as a Muslim. So I don't think his tweet should be added to either page.
:About the trivia section at the bottom of pages, I'm against the idea as a whole (even before thinking of what those trivia sections will consist of). I think the idea, if implemented, would look odd. Some people may find it interesting, but it definitely wouldn't be professional or scholarly. And it's unnecessary clutter to pages that are already cluttered due to our (good) practice of referencing and heavily footnoting everything, using right aligned templates to link back to Core articles, etc. Wikipedia seems to agree; they limit back links and mentions in non-linkable media (scholarly journals, etc) to a box on the talk page of articles (e.g. see the page on Robert Spencer). Considering that Wikipedia uses some very unprofessional gimmicks (such as sometimes repeating key quotes in a larger font in a right aligned box), that's saying something. Think of broadsheets versus tabloids. We have the image of a broadsheet. That's what separates us from other similar sites. Resembling a tabloid may make it more interesting, but it drags the image of the site into the gutter. 
:When we actually consider the potential content of these trivia sections, I don't think their effect would be at all positive. This site is different to most sites critical of Islam because it appeals even to those who are neutral towards Islam, even some orthodox Muslims use it as a resources for chronology of the Qur'an, fake hadith list etc. (think back about four years and you'll remember telling me this was your ultimate aim; to one day go around the wiki and remove all opinions, right-wing nonsense, etc. and thankfully I think that has been achieved). Of course, there's still a long way to go, and many more "neutrals" and Muslims that need to be attracted to the site (critics will already use the site, so trying to attract them is like singing to the choir i.e. pretty pointless). So:
:1. '''"Famous person X linked to this page."'''
:These "famous people" will almost certainly be critics of Islam. It's great that they use this site. That's what it's here for, for people to use. But celebrating this fact is counter-productive. Most of them come with unwanted baggage, such as discriminatory views on immigration, unwavering support for a certain nation over the other (regardless of their individual actions), and so on. What they believe shouldn't affect how people treat what they say about Islam, but in the real world it does. And if the wiki celebrates their use of the site, it unloads all of their unwanted baggage onto it. If a neutral or Muslim reads that at the bottom of the page (or even on the talk page) the instant reaction would be, "Tarek Fatah/Pat Condell/whoever likes this page? Then it's Islamophobic rubbish. Goodbye." It will even effect those who link to us in forum posts, because when forummers visit the link to see his/her side of the argument, they will too most likely dismiss it just as easily.
:2. '''"Former Muslim Y was influenced by this page and mentioned it in their testimony"'''
:This will probably have the same effect as reading number 1. In addition to that, it reflects badly on the site and makes it look too agenda driven. The point is, this site is here to educate and provide facts. Nothing more and nothing less. This (proper facts etc.) will obviously cause quite a few Muslims to leave Islam, but it should remain just that; a side-effect of eduction and proper facts. The site mission now is to "provide an accurate and comprehensive resource on Islam," not to "provide facts in order to help Muslims leave Islam" (as I believe it once was many years ago). Retaining such attitudes will result in a regression of the site's status, rather than an evolution of it. A site that still thinks of itself as a place to "provide facts in order to help Muslims leave Islam" will never be taken seriously by anyone other than the choir. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 01:39, 7 November 2014 (PST)
::Ok thats fine. Well at least it was advertised to 51K followers so there's that. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 09:52, 7 November 2014 (PST)
== Translation of QHS:Corruption of Previous Scriptures ==
{{user|Damaskin}} sent an email saying he only wants to translate [[Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Corruption_of_Previous_Scriptures]] and not the whole series and I told thats most likely OK but I wanted to confirm with you. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:54, 10 November 2014 (PST)
:Oh yeah, that's cool. The QHS section is not like a series written by one person, so most of these QHS pages can definitely stand on their own. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:01, 12 November 2014 (PST)
::Cool I'll let him know. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 13:15, 13 November 2014 (PST)
== Correspondence with visitors ==
This is totally up to you. You're probably already busy but if you want, I can forward you any interesting inquiries we get and we can publish them and their response online for people to read. It should result in more traffic (people will love to read those emails) and more emails as well (which could be a problem too). You can respond in any way you like. I could forward only a few or all the ones. I had talked about this before but I couldn't find any security settings that would help two people check the same account easily without any issues.
We could also have another email address which you can make and we can have people writing to that address for inquiries. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 16:59, 11 November 2014 (PST)
:Hi Ax. What sorts of emails are they usually? I don't have too much time, but if you forwarded them to me I would try to answer the serious/important ones if you would like. I'm guessing you get a lot of trolling-type emails calling the site "Islamophobic". I think these can mostly be ignored, unless they include misconceptions that you and I can try to dispel. Email me if you want and we can discuss this more freely. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 13:20, 12 November 2014 (PST)
::Yea half of them are 'hate' mails that happen max of around once a month and even less. The frequency of all mails combined isnt too much since we dont make it easy for people to get that page (about, scroll down and hunt for the Contact link; as opposed to a straight 'contact us' link on every page which many sites have and that would make it easier for them). That was by design so we only get contacted on that address by people who really want to do so. Ok I'll forward you a few and continue this there. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 13:26, 13 November 2014 (PST)
== Changing Essays ==
[[The Rising Star of Incompetent Muslim Science]] would look better and the site would also give a better impression if the title was changed to something more nuetral and the language was modified. Do our current policies say essays should not be changed? I'm thinking they could be changed if the material can be edited to more closely follow the [[WikiIslam:Article Style and Content Guide|Style guidelines]]. And then the author can still keep their name in the article. Happy holidays. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:21, 24 December 2014 (PST)
:Hi Ax. Thanks. I had a very Merry Christmas. Hope you did too. Yeah, I don't see a problem with administrators copy-editing essays for the sake of style. WikiIslam's essays policy ATM says, "If needed, essays/op-eds may be edited for relevance, clarity and language issues." So it would fit in with that, and it's hardly the same as another editor coming along and trying to alter the message/subject/focus of the essay (i.e. Sunshine). [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 18:10, 27 December 2014 (PST)
::I've moved that page and all associated links to "[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quran_and_Modern_Science_%E2%80%93_Conflict_or_Conciliation Qur’an and Modern Science: Conflict or Conciliation?]", so at least the first issue is sorted. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 18:27, 27 December 2014 (PST)
:::Better than before, thanks. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 18:22, 28 December 2014 (PST)
== Spanish Template ==
Thanks for your message :)! I promise to complete the other pending articles on this week. Here goes:
{{Quote||Artículos en español}}
{{Quote||Esta es una página índice para los artículos de WikiIslam en español.}}
{{Quote||Mapa del sitio - Use para navegar en WikiIslam y encontrar la información que necesita.}}
[[User:Aelu|Aelu]] ([[User talk:Aelu|talk]]) 18:52, 10 January 2015 (PST)
:Thanks a lot. I'm now going to add Spanish to the sidebar on the left. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 02:13, 11 January 2015 (PST)
== Translations of textimonies ==
[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Waterlily_-_Voormalige_Moslem] For example. We can have a template note at the top of each testimony saying:
:This is a translation of the original <nowiki>[[</nowiki>link|English testimony]].
Link can go to the English page. The English one can have a note at the bottom saying
:This testimony has been translated into <nowiki>[[</nowiki>link|Afrikaans]].
That will be easier than putting it in the Infobox. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 01:25, 12 January 2015 (PST)
:Cool. I've made two templates now ([http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Template:Testimony-translation-afrikaans][http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Template:Testimony-translation-english]). We'll need to get the first one translated into Afrikaans. About the second (English) one; could you please add that as an optional parameter to ''template:apostate-top'' like you have with the ''source='' thing? It would look much better without it being separated by that giant gap (the gap is in the original one obviously to provide a little space between the "legal" or "informational" stuff and the actual content). [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 02:23, 12 January 2015 (PST)
::Done: [[Template:Apostate-top]] and [[Template:Apostate-top-afrikaans]]. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 07:30, 12 January 2015 (PST)
:::Awesome! Thanks, Ax! [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:42, 12 January 2015 (PST)
== Additional translation links for Russian articles ==
Looking back I think I didnt have the best idea to keep Russian articles linked different by saying "for other languages see the links on the left". It would have been better to keep them all in the same place (unified) at the bottom of the page like we say it for other languages. Oops. Oh well. If you agree maybe that can be fixed one day for all the translations. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:51, 7 February 2015 (PST)
:Yeah, I definitely agree. We should look to fixing that in the future. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 02:59, 10 February 2015 (PST)
::Ok. I'll add it to the tasks list. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 10:03, 10 February 2015 (PST)
== Translation steps ==
I wonder if this section can be moved to the top or bottom [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Instructions_for_Translators#Steps_for_a_Translation] and expanded to be a good checklist of the stuff that needs to be done (taking stuff from what that page says but in shortened bullet form). This way the translators themselves can follow that checklist and make all the changes. There can be sub-bullets too like 1.1 or 1.a, 1.b.. or just bullets under an existing bullet (* and then ** will make it a sub-bullet). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 10:12, 10 February 2015 (PST)
:I think the way the page is set up right now is good because it covers pretty much everything, and it does it in the right order, and even splits it up into bite-sized stages. So if translators actually read the page, they couldn't go wrong. However they'd have to actually read the thing in the first place. So yeah, maybe a "Summary" section at the top of that page (or maybe even putting it back [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Translations#Help_and_Guidelines here]?) would encourage that. I dunno. Maybe it will discourage new translators from ever reading the indepth part? Anyways, I'll try to write something up soon when I get time and we can see what it looks like. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 17:44, 10 February 2015 (PST)
::Cool. Either place would be good. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 18:17, 10 February 2015 (PST)
== Shia hadith ==
I dono if we discussed this before. But if i want to add Shia Hadith, where is the right place? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 23:16, 14 February 2015 (PST)
:Hi Saggy. No we haven't discussed this before. And I don't think anyone has ever suggested/tried adding Shi'ite hadith to any pages before. I don't know how we would approach that. One thing we can't do is add Shi'ite hadith to pages with Sunni hadith or  even to pages that discuss mainstream (i.e. Sunni) Islam. Doing so would undermine the credibility of those pages (they will be dismissed out-of-hand by Muslims with something like "LOL they use Shia hadith. Shia aint Muslim XD".). Shi'ite's are a minority so criticism of their religion is not really that high on the importance factor, but if it was done, it would probably be best confined to their own dedicated pages (they could then be linked from the [[Shiites|Shi'ites]] hub page). [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 03:13, 15 February 2015 (PST)
== Highlight in RC for unchecked edits ==
I want to remove the Yellow and bold that comes for the unchecked edits. I think its too strong/annoying. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Special:RecentChanges . What do you think? We could just have it in normal text.
The yellow/bold creates some kind of pressure as if its urgent and has to be done right now which is not the case. So yea I think I'll remove that. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 05:05, 14 March 2015 (PDT)
:Yeah, totally agree. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 15:11, 14 March 2015 (PDT)
::Ok great. I got rid of it. It just looks like normal text now. -> http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Special:RecentChanges --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 15:27, 14 March 2015 (PDT)
:::Awesome. Looks much better. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 15:29, 14 March 2015 (PDT)
There's two commas in this one (after Daniel pipes):
::::I added the bold back but not the color so atleast there's some difference between review text and other stuff but not too strong. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 16:09, 22 March 2015 (PDT)
:{{external link|url= http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2010/09/defecation-torah-new-testament|title= Istinja' with the Torah and New Testament|publisher= |author= Daniel Pipes|date= Sep 21, 2010|archiveurl= http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.danielpipes.org%2Fblog%2F2010%2F09%2Fdefecation-torah-new-testament&date=2015-03-14|deadurl=no}}
And one comma in this one (after the name) that doesnt have a date in it:
:{{external link|url= http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2010/09/defecation-torah-new-testament|title= Istinja' with the Torah and New Testament|publisher= |author= Daniel Pipes|date= |archiveurl= http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.danielpipes.org%2Fblog%2F2010%2F09%2Fdefecation-torah-new-testament&date=2015-03-14|deadurl=no}}
There's probably more bugs in it that I dont know of. [http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=Taurat&diff=111843&oldid=111842 There] I put the name in the 'link desc', just to make it work but it should really be in the Author field. Hopefully I'll fix it some day. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 16:43, 14 March 2015 (PDT)
:::Oh okay. Actually, I think the fact that you can put miscellaneous text in the desc field makes this template perfectly usable. Because if an "author" name is ever needed in an external link, then by default the editor who adds that link should also be providing us with the article's publisher and publication date. When those three fields are filled, the template works as intended. It's like with our citeweb template. Just because it can be used with a single field filled, does not mean that it is allowed on WikiIslam. As stated on WikiIslam:Citing Sources, the minimum parameters that should be used are: url= | title= | author= | publisher= | date= | archiveurl= | deadurl=no/yes. I will edit the instructions on that template to let editors know. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 16:59, 14 March 2015 (PDT)
::::Yea sure it can be used if those fields are filled out. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 07:58, 15 March 2015 (PDT)
== Translations completed ==
Spanish translations of [[WikiIslam:Sandbox/Quien matara a una persona (Corán 5:32)|If Anyone Slew a Person (Qur'an 5:32)]] and  [[WikiIslam:Sandbox/Falsos crímenes de odio anti-musulmán y otras mentiras|Fake Anti-Muslim Hate Crimes and Other Lies]]* are finished and ready to be checked.
<br /> *I don't know how to translate the names of the country template.
[[User:Aelu|Aelu]] ([[User talk:Aelu|talk]]) 09:29, 21 March 2015 (PDT)
:Hi Aelu. That's great. I'll check those pages as soon as I can. No need to worry about the names in the country templates. I'll do that myself (if you like, you can check the Diffs to see what I did). [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 23:14, 22 March 2015 (PDT)
::Thank you so much for your help, specially for translating the countries. [[User:Aelu|Aelu]] ([[User talk:Aelu|talk]]) 07:10, 27 March 2015 (PDT)
:::You're welcome! [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 11:03, 27 March 2015 (PDT)
::New spanish translations of [[WikiIslam:Sandbox:Versos coránicos malinterpretados|Misinterpreted Qur'anic Verses]] and [[WikiIslam:Sandbox/Pedofilia en el Corán|Pedophilia in the Qur'an]] are ready to be checked.  [[User:Aelu|Aelu]] ([[User talk:Aelu|talk]]) 19:05, 8 May 2015 (PDT)
== Sunnah.com ==
What do you think about the reliability of sunnah.com? I havent looked into it. Their [http://sunnah.com/about About] page doesnt say much about who is behind the site etc. Its still a nice site though. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:59, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
:I've never had a problem with it, but some people say they soften translations don't they? They even say on the About page that the text has gone through two stages of "cleaning". They mention one stage is correcting typos, but they leave you hanging on what that second stage is. However, it's an Islamic site so anything we use from there won't be accused of being "fake". So I think it's okay as a backup or when nothing better is available. We already use it for the hadith collections that are not on USC-MSA. Our FAQ says "The English translations of Al Tirmidhi, Al Nasa'i, and Ibn Majah are all taken from Sunnah.com." Obviously I archived every single page for each of those hadith collections and our templates link to these archives (this way they cannot delete or alter hadiths). It's come in quite handy for me actually. The set of Ibn Majah hadith they copy/pasted include the hadiths grading and I [[Responses_to_Apologetics_-_Muhammad_and_Aisha#There_is_1_hadith_that_says_Aisha_.22never_saw_the_private_parts_of_Muhammad.22|used it to debunk]] an apologetic argument against Muhammad's pedophilia and simultaneously pointed out how those who use this argument are knowingly propagating false information. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 03:37, 23 April 2015 (PDT)
::Ok. Yea ''"So I think it's okay as a backup or when nothing better is available."'' - I agree too. I will try to make an archive anytime I use it. That's pretty good information in that Aisha link, all referenced etc. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 18:40, 26 April 2015 (PDT)
== Sandbox article on extremist violence ==
I have a feeling you might not like [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Sandbox/Wartime_sexual_violence_by_Islamic_terrorists] but we can just use the references for the attacks and use them somewhere else. I think the term Rape Jihad should not be used or given much attention to so I changed the title. In any case its just a sandbox article and it has disclaimers at the top and its text can be used later for anything. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 05:49, 19 May 2015 (PDT)
== BG sub domain ==
You havent visited for a while! I hope everything is fine. Damaskin has been working hard to make the [http://bg.wikiislam.net/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 BG WikiIslam sub-domain] after Claustrum set it up. He said its ready to be linked so I made the various changes. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 17:36, 28 June 2015 (PDT)
== Translation of pagan origins of Islam ==
Hi, I translate the article "Pagan Origins of Islam" here in my sandbox : http://wikiislam.net/wiki/User:Maxime/Sandbox_1, if you can tell me if the article is good or to correct, thanks. --[[User:Maxime|Maxime]] ([[User talk:Maxime|talk]]) 02:57, 20 September 2015 (PDT)
== If Anyone Slew a Person (Qur'an 5:32) ==
Is this page [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/If_Anyone_Slew_a_Person] good enough to be added to the [[WikiIslam:Translations#Articles_to_Translate]] list? It seems like its a popular page that people are looking for when there's a terrorist attack. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 11:07, 14 November 2015 (PST)
==Contribute please==
I have moved this article from wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad&oldid=782817488
to here (in case wiki deletes/censors it)
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_expeditions_of_Muhammad
Please contribute it and kindly help make it compatible with wikiislams wikicode--[[User:Bench|Bench]] ([[User talk:Bench|talk]]) 13:05, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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