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 ====Aiša s manželstvím souhlasila. Pokud by to bylo zneužívání, tak by Mohameda opustila====
-V islámu, panenské mlčení je jejím "souhlasem".<ref>"''Narrated Abu Haraira: Allah's Apostle said, "A lady slave should not be given in marriage until she is consulted, and a virgin should not be given in marriage until her permission is granted." The people said, "How will she express her permission?" The Prophet said, "By keeping silent (when asked her consent)." Some people said, "If a man, by playing a trick, presents two false witnesses before the judge to testify that he has married a matron with her consent and the judge confirms his marriage, and the husband is sure that he has never married her (before), then such a marriage will be considered as a legal one and he may live with her as husband.''" - {{Bukhari|9|86|100}}, See Also: {{Bukhari|9|86|98}} and {{Bukhari|9|86|101}}</ref><ref>"''m3.13 Guardians are of two types, those who may compel their female charges to marry someone, and those who may not. 1. The only guardians who may compel their charge to marry are a virgin bride's father or father's father, compel meaning to marry her to a suitable match (def: m4) without her consent. 2. Those who may not compel her are not entitled to marry her to someone unless she accepts and gives her permission. Whenever the bride is a virgin, the father or father's father may marry her to someone without her permission, though it is recommended to ask her permission '''if''' she has reached puberty. A virgin's silence is considered as permission.''" - [http://web.archive.org/web/20020422171727/www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/NHMK_RT/Default.htm Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law] - Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, Edited and Translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller</ref> To the rest of us, this does not constitute consent, and the idea that a young child's willingness to engage in sexual activity with a grown adult somehow makes the act morally justifiable is abhorrent. It is an excuse that many pedophiles use to justify their behavior.
+V islámu, panenské mlčení je jejím "souhlasem".<ref>"''Vyprávěl Abú Haraira: Aláhův apoštol řekl, "Otrokyně by neměla být vdaná, dokud to s ní není zkonzultováno a panna by neměla být provdána dokud k tomu nedá svolení." Lidi řekli, "Jak vyjádří své svolení?" Prorok řekl, "Tím, že bude mlčet(když se zeptají na její svolení)." Někteří lidi řekli, "Pokud někdo udělá trik, přivede dva falešné svědky k soudci, aby dosvědčili, že si ji vzal s jejím svolením a soudce potvrdí jejich manželství, a manžel ví, že si ji nikdy nevzal, poté bude takové manželství považováno za legální a může s ní žít jako manžel.''" - {{Bukhari|9|86|100}}, Viz také: {{Bukhari|9|86|98}} a {{Bukhari|9|86|101}}</ref><ref>"''m3.13 Dozorci jsou dvou druhů, ti, kteří mohou donutit ženu k sňatku a ti, kteří ne. 1. Jediní dozorci, kteří mohou ženu k provdání jsou otec panny, nebo otec otce, donutit znamená vdát ji vhodnému muži (def: m4) bez jejího souhlasu. 2. Ti, kteří nemají právo ji nutit k manželství, pokud to neakceptuje a neudělí svolení. Kdykoliv je manželka pannou, otec nebo otec otce ji může provdát za někoho, bez jejího svolení, i když je doporučeno požádat o její svolení '''pokud''' dosáhla puberty. Mlčení panny je považováno za svolení.''" - [http://web.archive.org/web/20020422171727/www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/NHMK_RT/Default.htm Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law] - Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, Edited and Translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller</ref> Pro zbytek nás, tohle neznamená svolení, a nápad, že ochota mladé dívky zúčastnit se sexuální aktivity s dospělým jaksi dělá tento akt morálně ospravedlněn je odporné. Je to výmluva, kterou mnoho pedofilů používá pro ospravedlnění jejich chování.
-In fact, Aisha did ''not'' consent to her marriage. This is the specific reason why Islamic scholars are "unanimously agreed that a father may marry off his young daughter without consulting her."<ref>Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr, Al-Istidhkaar, 16/49-50: "''The scholars are unanimously agreed that a father may marry off his young daughter without consulting her. The Messenger of Allaah married ‘Aa’ishah bint Abi Bakr when she was young, six or seven years old, when her father married her to him.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/12708|2=2011-10-27}} Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started her menses?] - Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 12708</ref> Furthermore, "there is no age limit to be intimate with one's wife even if she is a minor (did not attain puberty)", but "when she attains puberty, she has the right to maintain the marriage or discontinue the marriage."<ref>"''According to the Shari'ah, if a girl is a minor (did not attain puberty), she may be given in marriage by her father. When she attains puberty, she has the right to maintain the marriage or discontinue the marriage. There is no age limit to be intimate with one's wife even if she is a minor.''" - [http://web.archive.org/web/20080127161338/http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6737 I would like to marry a woman who is 12 years old, her father and she has also agreed. What is your advise?] - Islamic Q & A Online with Mufti Ebrahim Desai, Ask-Imam, Question No. 6737</ref>
+Popravdě, Aiša nesouhlasila s jejím manželstvím. To je přesným důvodem, proč islámští učenci "jednoznačně souhlasili, že otec může provdát svoji mladou dceru bez jejího svolení."<ref>Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr, Al-Istidhkaar, 16/49-50: "''The scholars are unanimously agreed that a father may marry off his young daughter without consulting her. The Messenger of Allaah married ‘Aa’ishah bint Abi Bakr when she was young, six or seven years old, when her father married her to him.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/12708|2=2011-10-27}} Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started her menses?] - Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 12708</ref> Dále, "neexistuje žádný limit pro být intimní se svou manželkou, i když je ještě dítě ( nedosáhla puberty)", ale "když dosáhne puberty, má právo manželství udržet, nebo v něm dále nepokračovat."<ref>"''Podle šáríi, pokud je dívka dítě(nedosáhla puberty), může být provdána svým otcem. Když dosáhne puberty, má právo ponechat, nebo přerušit manželství. Zároveň není věkový limit pro sex s manželkou i když je dítě.''" - [http://web.archive.org/web/20080127161338/http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6737 I would like to marry a woman who is 12 years old, her father and she has also agreed. What is your advise?] - Islamic Q & A Online with Mufti Ebrahim Desai, Ask-Imam, Question No. 6737</ref>
-As to not leaving him; both of the young victims, aged 12 and 15, of Warren Jeffs, the polygamist cult leader, did not leave him. They "entered into unions with Jeffs willingly, and did not participate in the trial against him."<ref name="Warren Jeffs">"''As a prophet of his polygamist sect, Warren Jeffs documented everything he did, keeping track of every marriage he performed, every young woman he wed, and even recording his intimate moments ... Jeffs had 78 wives in addition to his legal spouse, and 24 of them were under age 17, said Eric Nichols, lead prosecutor for the Texas Attorney General's office, which is handling the case ... Jurors deliberated for 3½ hours before finding Jeffs guilty of sexually assaulting two girls, ages 12 and 15, whom he'd wed during what his sect considers "spiritual marriages." Prosecutors used DNA evidence to show Jeffs fathered a child with the older victim and played an audio recording of what they said was him sexually assaulting the younger girl ... Jeffs' sect has more than 10,000 members nationwide who believe polygamy brings exaltation in heaven. Both victims entered into unions with Jeffs willingly, and did not participate in the trial against him. But Nichols said in his closing statement that the crimes were so egregious that under Texas law, convictions did not require the victim to bring charges.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Polygamist-leader-convicted-of-child-sex-assault-1719564.php|2=2011-10-27}} Polygamist leader convicted of child sex assault] - Will Weissert, Associated Press, August 5, 2011</ref> Regardless of the victims support for him, he was still a pedophile and was convicted in 2011 of sexually abusing children.
+Co se týče toho, že jej neopustila, obě mladé oběti, 12 a 15 leté, od Warren Jeffse, polygamního vůdce kultu, jej neopustily. Ony "vstoupily do spojeí s Jeffsem ochotně, a nezúčastnily se soudu proti němu."<ref name="Warren Jeffs">"''As a prophet of his polygamist sect, Warren Jeffs documented everything he did, keeping track of every marriage he performed, every young woman he wed, and even recording his intimate moments ... Jeffs had 78 wives in addition to his legal spouse, and 24 of them were under age 17, said Eric Nichols, lead prosecutor for the Texas Attorney General's office, which is handling the case ... Jurors deliberated for 3½ hours before finding Jeffs guilty of sexually assaulting two girls, ages 12 and 15, whom he'd wed during what his sect considers "spiritual marriages." Prosecutors used DNA evidence to show Jeffs fathered a child with the older victim and played an audio recording of what they said was him sexually assaulting the younger girl ... Jeffs' sect has more than 10,000 members nationwide who believe polygamy brings exaltation in heaven. Both victims entered into unions with Jeffs willingly, and did not participate in the trial against him. But Nichols said in his closing statement that the crimes were so egregious that under Texas law, convictions did not require the victim to bring charges.''" - [{{Reference archive|1=http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Polygamist-leader-convicted-of-child-sex-assault-1719564.php|2=2011-10-27}} Polygamist leader convicted of child sex assault] - Will Weissert, Associated Press, August 5, 2011</ref> Nezávisle na tom, jestli jej podporují oběti, byl pořád pedofil a byl odsouzen roku 2011 za sexuální zneužívání dětí.
 ====Aiša milovala Mohameda a vždy o něm mluvila s úctou. Byl by pedofil hoden takové chvály?====