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{{Quote|[https://unfpa.org/sites/default/files/pub-pdf/De-linking%20FGM%20from%20Islam%20final%20report.pdf 'Delinking Female Genital Mutilation/Cutting from Islam'] by Ibrahim Lethome Asmani & Maryam Sheikh Abdi (2008)|'Shafi’i view it as wajib (obligatory) for both females and males'}}
{{Quote|[https://unfpa.org/sites/default/files/pub-pdf/De-linking%20FGM%20from%20Islam%20final%20report.pdf 'Delinking Female Genital Mutilation/Cutting from Islam'] by Ibrahim Lethome Asmani & Maryam Sheikh Abdi (2008)|'Shafi’i view it as wajib (obligatory) for both females and males'}}


'Reliance of the Traveller' by by Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302–1367) is the Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law according to Shafi'i School. {{Quote|''Reliance of the Traveler'' [''Umdat al-Salik''], Section e4.3 on Circumcision|'''Obligatory (on every male and female) is circumcision.''' (And it is the cutting-off of the skin [''qat' al-jaldah''] on the glans of the male member and, '''as for the circumcision of the female, that is the cutting-off of the clitoris')}}Nuh Ha Mim Keller's 1991 translation of Reliance of the Traveller is bowdlerised to make its content more acceptable to Western eyes and translates the word 'bazr' ( بَظْرٌ ) as 'clitorial prepuce' instead of simply 'clitoris' (see section [[#Defining Bazr|Defining Bazr)]].
'Reliance of the Traveller' by by Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri (1302–1367) is the Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law according to Shafi'i School. {{Quote|''Reliance of the Traveler'' [''Umdat al-Salik''], Section e4.3 on Circumcision|'''Obligatory (on every male and female) is circumcision.''' (And it is the cutting-off of the skin [''qat' al-jaldah''] on the glans of the male member and, '''as for the circumcision of the female, that is the cutting-off of the clitoris')}}'''Nuh Ha Mim Keller's 1991 translation of Reliance of the Traveller is bowdlerised to make its content more acceptable to Western eyes and translates the word 'bazr' ( بَظْرٌ ) as 'clitorial prepuce' instead of simply 'clitoris' (see section [[#Defining Bazr|Defining Bazr)]].'''


===Hanbali Madhab===
===Hanbali Madhab===
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====Muhammad wanted to forbid FGM but couldn't====
====Muhammad wanted to forbid FGM but couldn't====
The same argument is made for Islam's relationshuip with slavery. But one can wonder given that the hadith have him approving of FGM and owning, trading a and capturing slaves - one can ask how much faster the hadith and Qur'an - the Qur'an's and hadith's approval of FGM and slavery have been a major factor in the justification of perpetuation of the practice. One can speculate whether FGM would still be endemic to the Islamic world if the Qur'an contained a single verse explicitly forbidding it, or if there were not FGM in the ahdith. 
The full argument is that Muhammad wanted to forbid FGM but felt that the society wherein he lived was not ready to immediately do this, so in the Qur'an and by his Sunnah he prepared the ground for eventual abolition of the practice.  


<s>one can speculate how things would be different if mohammed had forbidden FGM in the Quran with the same force as he did alcohol, and/or just not approved of it in his words and deeds (as recorded in the hadith)</s>   
The same argument is made with regards to slavery. But one can wonder if Islamic history and the Islamic world today would so rife with slavery if Muhammad had not legitimised it in the Qur'an, and himself captured, owned, used and traded in slaves in the Hadith. 
 
Likewise with FGM. The fact that the Qur'an exhorts Muslims to 'adhere to the fitrah' (part of which is FGM), and the hadith report him approving of FGM how much sooner the hadith and Qur'an - the Qur'an's and hadith's approval of FGM and slavery have been a major factor in the justification of perpetuation of the practice. One can speculate whether FGM would still be endemic to the Islamic world if the Qur'an contained a single verse explicitly forbidding it, or if there were not FGM in the hadith. 
 
Muhammad was not shy of forbidding things which would have been dear to the people he ruled over -[[Intoxicants and Recreation in Islamic Law|pork,]] [[Intoxicants and Recreation in Islamic Law|alcohol, gambling]], [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Music|music and singing]] a- things that when indulged in with moderation give harmless pleasure and which people want to enjoy and share. How much more readily would people be to abandon a practice that goes against the deepest instincts of any parent. 
 
One can speculate how things would be different if, in the Qur'an, he had forbidden FGM with the same force as he did alcohol, and/or just not approved of it in his words and deeds (as recorded in the hadith)<s>s would be different if mohammed had forbidden FGM in the Quran with the same force as he did alcohol, and/or just not approved of it in his words and deeds (as recorded in the hadith)</s>   


Forbid many other things  
Forbid many other things  
One of the major ‘selling points’ of Mohammed’s new religion was that it overturned and rejected the established practices of pre-Islamic Arabian polytheism. Mohammed suddenly imposed on his followers such new practices as male circumcision, abstention from alcohol, abstention from pork, abstention from music and art, ritual ablutions, praying 5 times a day… and his followers were all keen to follow these new rules. It seems unlikely that refraining from FGM would be ‘one reform too many’ for his followers.
Mohammed successfully demanded that his followers abstain from pleasurable and/or beneficial things such as eating pork, drinking alcohol, interest in debt, the public display of women’s faces, instrumental music, and art that depicts the human form, the easy mixing and socialisation of men and women – how much more willingly would his followers have abandoned a practice that is harmful, and that must be distressing for loving parents to perform and witness?


==='Halal' vs 'Responsibility'===
==='Halal' vs 'Responsibility'===
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