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Added a verse stating clouds are specifically between the heaven and universe to back up previous verses interpretation that there is n actual gap of space between the firmament heaven and Earth in the Quran. Also something happened with my last update sorry! The page seems to have gone strange and I can't edit it. The 'See Also' section has two equals signs, and the pervious text in this section can't be clicked on or edited (everywhere else on the page is fine for me though). Thank you.
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(→‎Seven Universes: I have added another verse which I believe contradicts the modern interpretation of the 'heavens' being the universe(s), instead matching the contemporary firmament view. Also got rid off the Arabic on an Earth hadith to save space. With this 'heavens' section expanding it might be worth changing the page title to include 'and the seven heavens' (which I can't edit myself)? Thanks.)
(Added a verse stating clouds are specifically between the heaven and universe to back up previous verses interpretation that there is n actual gap of space between the firmament heaven and Earth in the Quran. Also something happened with my last update sorry! The page seems to have gone strange and I can't edit it. The 'See Also' section has two equals signs, and the pervious text in this section can't be clicked on or edited (everywhere else on the page is fine for me though). Thank you.)
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In reality, the night and day we experience is a feature of the earth's rotation on its axis and is only applicable to Earth itself. There is no sense in which the earth's night and day apply across the wider cosmos as it would need to to be able to substitute the word/modern concept 'universe' with heaven/heavens (samā).
In reality, the night and day we experience is a feature of the earth's rotation on its axis and is only applicable to Earth itself. There is no sense in which the earth's night and day apply across the wider cosmos as it would need to to be able to substitute the word/modern concept 'universe' with heaven/heavens (samā).
{{Quote|{{Quran|79|27-29}}|Is your creation more prodigious or that of the heaven He has built? He raised its vault and fashioned it, and <b>darkened its night</b>, and <b>brought forth its forenoon<b/>.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|79|27-29}}|Is your creation more prodigious or that of the heaven He has built? He raised its vault and fashioned it, and <b>darkened its night</b>, and <b>brought forth its forenoon<b/>.}}
==== Between the Universe and the Earth ====
==== Between the Universe and the Earth ====
God is said to have dominion/sovereignty of the heavens and Earth and all that is ''between them (baynahum بينهم).''  
God is said to have dominion/sovereignty of the heavens and Earth and all that is ''between them (baynahum بينهم).''  


There is nothing between the Earth and the rest of the universe, so substituting the 'heavens' with the modern definition of the universe does not make sense here. Yet once again matches the ancient view of the heavens as 'firmaments' in the sky with space between them. This idea is also backed up in many hadith ''(see: [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Creation]]),'' such as {{Bukhari|9|93|608}}, describing Muhammad's alleged night journey through the heavens.  
There is nothing between the Earth and the rest of the universe, so substituting the 'heavens' with the modern definition of the universe does not make sense here. Yet once again matches the ancient view of the heavens as 'firmaments' in the sky with space between them. This idea is also backed up in many hadith ''(see: [[Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Creation]]),'' such as {{Bukhari|9|93|608}}, describing Muhammad's alleged night journey through the heavens.  
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|18}}|Say the Jews and the Christians: "We are sons of God and beloved of Him." Say: "Why does He punish you then for your sins? No: You are only mortals, of His creation." He can punish whom He pleases and pardon whom He wills, <b>for God's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and all that lies between them,</b> and everything will go back to Him.}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|5|18}}|Say the Jews and the Christians: "We are sons of God and beloved of Him." Say: "Why does He punish you then for your sins? No: You are only mortals, of His creation." He can punish whom He pleases and pardon whom He wills, <b>for God's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and all that lies between them,</b> and everything will go back to Him.}}Clouds are also distinctly said to be ''between'' the heavens and the Earth, again preventing the interpretation of the 'samā'/heavens/skies as our whole/visible universe.{{Quote|{{Quran|2|164}}|Indeed in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day, and the ships that sail at sea with profit to men, and the water that Allah sends down from the sky—with which He revives the earth after its death, and scatters therein every kind of animal—and the changing of the winds, <b>and the clouds disposed between the sky (samā) and the earth,</b> there are surely signs for a people who exercise their reason.}}


====  ==See Also==
====  ==See Also==
*[[Scientific Miracles in the Quran]]
*[[Scientific Miracles in the Quran]]
{{Hub4|Harun Yahya|Harun Yahya}}{{Hub4|Cosmology|Cosmology}} ==External Links==
{{Hub4|Harun Yahya|Harun Yahya}}{{Hub4|Cosmology|Cosmology}} ==External Links==


*[{{Reference archive|1=http://www.answering-islam.org./Quran/Science/seven_earths.html|2=2011-12-05}} Qur'an & Science Problem: The Seven Earths] ''- Answering Islam''  ==References==
*[{{Reference archive|1=http://www.answering-islam.org./Quran/Science/seven_earths.html|2=2011-12-05}} Qur'an & Science Problem: The Seven Earths] ''- Answering Islam''  ==References==
{{Reflist|30em}}  <!-- ==To Do==  Expand to include the claim that the "seven layers" applies to the [http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_19.html http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.miraclesofthequran.com%2Fscientific_19.html&date=2014-01-03 earth's atmosphere]. There are only 5 not 7 principal layers to the [[W:Atmosphere of Earth|earth's atmosphere]] http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAtmosphere_of_Earth&date=2014-01-03  determined by temperature. Within the five principal layers there are several more layers determined by other properties. Also see [http://councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=5823.0 http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcouncilofexmuslims.com%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D5823.0&date=2014-01-03  here] for a little more info. Once complete, rename the article, "Earth or its Atmosphere Made of Seven Layers" --> ====
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Expand to include the claim that the "seven layers" applies to the [http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_19.html http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.miraclesofthequran.com%2Fscientific_19.html&date=2014-01-03 earth's atmosphere]. There are only 5 not 7 principal layers to the [[W:Atmosphere of Earth|earth's atmosphere]] http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAtmosphere_of_Earth&date=2014-01-03  determined by temperature. Within the five principal layers there are several more layers determined by other properties. Also see [http://councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=5823.0 http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcouncilofexmuslims.com%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D5823.0&date=2014-01-03  here] for a little more info. Once complete, rename the article, "Earth or its Atmosphere Made of Seven Layers" -->
Expand to include the claim that the "seven layers" applies to the [http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_19.html http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.miraclesofthequran.com%2Fscientific_19.html&date=2014-01-03 earth's atmosphere]. There are only 5 not 7 principal layers to the [[W:Atmosphere of Earth|earth's atmosphere]] http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAtmosphere_of_Earth&date=2014-01-03  determined by temperature. Within the five principal layers there are several more layers determined by other properties. Also see [http://councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=5823.0 http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcouncilofexmuslims.com%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D5823.0&date=2014-01-03  here] for a little more info. Once complete, rename the article, "Earth or its Atmosphere Made of Seven Layers" -->
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