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(Have added a verse many commentators have taken as approval that women are deceiving and scheming and linked the examples. As well as given caveat that this isn't the sole view as the words here don't come directly from the prophets mouth - however I think is worth including to get the whole picture.)
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"An omen is in a dwelling, a woman or a horse." Abu Dawud said: This tradition was read out to al-Harith b. Miskin and I was witness. It was said to him that Ibn Qasim told him that Malik was asked about evil omen in a horse and in a house. He replied: There are many houses in which people lived and perished and again others lived therein and they also perished. This is its explanation so far as we know. Allah knows best. '''Abu Dawud said: 'Umar (ra) said: A mat in a house better than a woman who does not give birth to a child.'''}}
"An omen is in a dwelling, a woman or a horse." Abu Dawud said: This tradition was read out to al-Harith b. Miskin and I was witness. It was said to him that Ibn Qasim told him that Malik was asked about evil omen in a horse and in a house. He replied: There are many houses in which people lived and perished and again others lived therein and they also perished. This is its explanation so far as we know. Allah knows best. '''Abu Dawud said: 'Umar (ra) said: A mat in a house better than a woman who does not give birth to a child.'''}}


=== Women are good at deceiving/scheming ===
=== The guile of women is great ===
Quran 12:23-12:34 relates a story following prophet Yunus, where a married woman tries to seduce him. Her husband catches her and she accuses Yusuf of being the one to try and to seduce her. however the husband does not believe his wife due to his shirt being ripped on the back (and not the front). When referring to the adulterous woman's behaviour, her husband states that women (in general - not just the adulterer) are deceiving/scheming.  
Quran 12:23-12:34 relates a story following prophet Yusuf, where the wife of al-'Aziz tries to seduce him. Her husband catches her and she accuses Yusuf of being the one to try and to seduce her. However, the husband does not believe his wife due to Yusuf's shirt being ripped on the back (and not the front). When referring to the adulterous woman's behaviour, her husband states that the guile (kayd) of women is great using the female plural.  
{{Quote|{{Quran|12|28}}|So when the governor saw his shirt torn from behind, he said, “Indeed this is a deception of women; undoubtedly the deception of women is very great.”}}
{{Quote|{{Quran|12|28}}|So when he saw his shirt torn from behind, he said: Lo! this is of the guile of you women. Lo! the guile of you is very great.}}
While less explicit than the other verses and Islamic literature quoted in this article at being taken to apply to all women as the words do not come directly from a prophets mouth, this extremely misogynistic statement is never challenged by Yunus, and so many have taken this as approval of women being deceiving/scheming. Taken with the other direct quotes on women from the Qur'an and sunnah, it is easy to see why that was the case. For example, prominent scholars commentators such as Al-Qurtubi And al-Zamakhshari in their tafsirs have written in regards to this verse:
Yusuf himself uses the female plural a few verses later about the guile of the specific women who try to tempt him ({{Quran-range|12|33|34}}). The point of the story seems to be the victory of the prophet over temptation.
{{Quote|{{cite web| url=https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=5&tSoraNo=12&tAyahNo=27&tDisplay=yes&Page=3&Size=1&LanguageId=1 | title=Tafseer al-Qurtubi 12:27}}|It was said: The witness said it to her. And the plot: cunning and trickery, and it was mentioned in “Al-Anfal”. {Indeed, your plot is great}. Rather, he said “great” because of the greatness of their temptation and deceit in getting rid of their predicament. Muqatil said, on the authority of Yahya bin Abi Kathir, on the authority of Abu Hurairah, who said: <b>The Messenger of God, may God bless him and grant him peace, said: “The plot of women is greater than the plot of Satan, because God Almighty says: Indeed, the plot of Satan is weak and He said: Indeed, your plot is great. ".</b>}}
 
While some modern commentators emphasise this and other aspects of the story, the vast majority of classical commentators took the second part of verse 28 spoken by al-'Aziz to indicate a defining feature of women in general. Some, such as a-Zamakhshari, al-Baqli and al-Haqqi even contrast it with another verse about the weakness of Satan's guile. Al-Qurtubi presents this idea in the form of a hadith (with a weak chain):<ref name="Amin2023">Taira Amin (2023), [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/371278020_The_Discursive_Construction_of_Women%27s_Guile_in_the_Muslim_Exegetical_Tradition The Discursive Construction of Women’s Guile in the Muslim Exegetical Tradition] in (Eds.) A. Aghdassi and A.W. Hughes, ''New Methodological Perspectives in Islamic Studies'' pp.46-72, Leiden:Brill DOI:10.1163/9789004536630_005.</ref>
 
{{Quote|1=Tafseer al-Qurtubi for Q 12:28 translated by Taira Amin<ref name="Amin2023" /> ([https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=1&tTafsirNo=5&tSoraNo=12&tAyahNo=27&tDisplay=yes&Page=3&Size=1&LanguageId=1 arabic])|2=It has been reported by Yahya bin Abī Kathīr from Abu Hurayrā that the messenger of God said in the Qurʾān: Indeed the deception of Satan is weak (Q 4:76) and he said: Indeed, your deception [Oh you women] is great (Q 12:28).}}
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{{Quote|{{cite web| url=https://www.greattafsirs.com/Tafsir_Library.aspx?MadhabNo=1&TafsirNo=2&SoraNo=12&AyahNo=28 | title=Tafsir al-Zamakhshari 12:28}}|The speech is for her and her genus. The scheming of women is exalted because even though it is against men, women are gentler in their scheming, more resourceful in their scheming, and are gentler and gentler in doing so, and thus they overpower men.}}


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