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Although confirmed by multiple Islamic scholars such as Tabari and ibn Kathir, the claim that the People of Lut were the first to experience homosexuality is completely without basis in history or biology. Homosexuality has been recorded in ancient cultures far before the time of Lut and Ibrahim(1948–2123 BC). For example the ancient Egyptians who existed 6000 years before Christ knew of the practice, as did Chinese and Indian cultures back to 7000 BCE. There are many recorded tales which portray homosexuality in the literature of these civilizations, such as the story between Seth and Horus. It is also known from biology that human male homosexuality, and to a lesser degree female homosexuality, will occur in any large enough population, so again this claim is completely without merit. | Although confirmed by multiple Islamic scholars such as Tabari and ibn Kathir, the claim that the People of Lut were the first to experience homosexuality is completely without basis in history or biology. Homosexuality has been recorded in ancient cultures far before the time of Lut and Ibrahim (1948–2123 BC). For example the ancient Egyptians who existed 6000 years before Christ knew of the practice, as did Chinese and Indian cultures back to 7000 BCE. There are many recorded tales which portray homosexuality in the literature of these civilizations, such as the story between Seth and Horus. It is also known from biology that human male homosexuality, and to a lesser degree female homosexuality, will occur in any large enough population, so again this claim is completely without merit. | ||
Even if one ignores all extra-Quranic sources for dating this story, this is still set long after the first humans (who appeared ~300,000 years ago)<ref>[https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/essential-timeline-understanding-evolution-homo-sapiens-180976807/ An Evolutionary Timeline of Homo Sapiens] - Smithsonian Institution magazine - 2 February 2021</ref> evolved, with the town described in the story being far too advanced for a hunter-gatherer tribe society. So at the earliest is set after the first Agricultural Revolution in the following Neolithic period where these kind of settlements began to occur, beginning ~12,000 years ago,<ref>[https://www.history.com/topics/pre-history/neolithic-revolution Neolithic Revolution] - History.com</ref> making this extremely implausible that they were the first to commit a homosexual act. | |||
It would more likely need to be much later than the earliest time for the remains to still be there while Muhammad was preaching, as stated in the following verses: | |||
{{Quote|{{Quran|37|133-138}}|And indeed, Lot was among the messengers. | |||
[So mention] when We saved him and his family, all, <b>Then We destroyed the others. And indeed, you pass by them in the morning | |||
And at night.</b> Then will you not use reason?}}{{Quote|{{Quran|15|74-77}}|and We made its topmost part its nethermost, and rained on them stones of shale. | |||
There are indeed signs in that for the percipient. <b>Indeed it is on a standing road,</b> | |||
and there is indeed a sign in that for the faithful.}} | |||
==The Story in the Tafsir== | ==The Story in the Tafsir== | ||