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====Mistranslations====
====Mistranslations====
When apologists find two words which occur the same number of time but they are not very related, then they translate them a little differently.
When du'aah often find two words which occur the same number of time but they are not very related, and they translate them differently to prove their "miracle:


*In the "tongue"-"sermon" word count they actually counted the word "admonition", not "sermon". But "sermon" sounded better with the word "tongue"
*In the "tongue"-"sermon" word count they actually counted the word "admonition", not "sermon". But "sermon" sounded better with the word "tongue"
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===Selective Choice of the Form of the Miracle===
===Selective Choice of the Form of the Miracle===
There are many forms of "miracles" in word counts. When the word count itself for some word is not interesting, then apologists try comparing this word count with others. When there is not some equal word count found, they try finding a double word count. They are changing the form of the miracle, until they find some form in which the word count fits.
There are many forms of "miracles" in word counts. When the word count itself for some word is not interesting, the du'aah often try comparing this word count with others. When there is not some equal word count found, they try finding a double word count. They continue such changes to the form of the "miracle", until they find some form in which the word count fits.


Some of the forms of miracles are these:
Some of the forms of "miracles" such as these are:


*The meaning of the word occurs in the real world the same number of times as the word count
*The meaning of the word occurs in the real world the same number of times as the word count
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**"Righteous mentioned 6 times and wicked 3 times"
**"Righteous mentioned 6 times and wicked 3 times"


Also for every form of a miracle there might be a lot of ways for the word count to be "interesting". For example, when counting the word "day":
Also for every form of a miracle there might be many ways for the word count to be "interesting". For example, when counting the word "day":


*6 occurrences would be interesting, because god created the world in 6 days
*6 occurrences would be interesting, because god created the world in 6 days
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===Reliance on the Gullibility of the Audience===
===Reliance on the Gullibility of the Audience===
These counts are manipulated, generally in unstated ways, to produce the desired totals, but most individuals will not take the time needed to count and verify the claim themselves, so they may assume on good faith that it is true.
These counts are manipulated, generally in unstated ways, to produce the desired totals, but most Muslims who are predisposed to believe such things will not take the time needed to count and verify the claim themselves, so they may assume on good faith that it is true, especially once consider


===Not presenting the actual list===
===Not presenting the actual list===
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So this word does occur 8 times, if we count all forms.
So this word does occur 8 times, if all forms are counted.


The word for "luxury" is تَرَف (''taraf''), derived from the root ترف (t-r-f).
The word for "luxury" is تَرَف (''taraf''), derived from the root ترف (t-r-f).
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So, the word "wealth" itself appears exactly '''0 times'''.
So, the word "wealth" itself appears exactly '''0 times'''.


In conclusion:
To sum up:


*The word "gold" appears 8 times, the word "wealth" appears 0 times.
*The word "gold" appears 8 times, the word "wealth" appears 0 times.
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==="Silver" mentioned 6 times non-miracle===
==="Silver" mentioned 6 times non-miracle===
If the Qur'an is full of word count miracles, then we would expect the word "silver" (فضة, ''fidda'') to be also mentioned 8 times:
If the Qur'an is full of word count miracles, and if gold occuring 8 times were such a miracle, then it would be expected that the word "silver" (فضة, ''fidda'') appear 8 times:


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But it is not, although gold and silver are mentioned together in verses 3:14 and 9:34 as a property of wealthy people. So the Qur'an is not very consistent with its word count "miracles".
But it is not, although gold and silver are mentioned together in verses 3:14 and 9:34 as a property of wealthy people. So if this is a "miracle", it is a strangely inconsistent one.  


=="Fear" and "wish" both mentioned 8 times==
=="Fear" and "wish" both mentioned 8 times==
This is one of those "miracles" that are so embarrassing enough by themselves, that there is no need for a refutation. What is miraculous about two words, that are not related to each other, being mentioned the same number of times?
Very little miraculous substance can be show from this claim--it is simply that both words appear 8 times, and for some reason this is called a "miracle."


But this word count is interesting since it contains the word "fear" or "terror", so this word count might also tell us where the Qur'an speaks about terrorism.
But this word count is interesting since it contains the word "fear" or "terror", so this word count might also give an idea of where the Qur'an speaks about terrorism, which in Arabic is the same as the word for "terror" (although this concept did not exist at the time, the modern Arabic reader will recall the meaning when reading that word).  


The Arabic word for "fear" is ٱلْخَوْفِ (''al-khawf'') and it is mentioned more than a 100 times in the Qur'an.<ref>http://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=xwf</ref>
The Arabic word for "fear" is ٱلْخَوْفِ (''al-khawf'') and it is mentioned more than a 100 times in the Qur'an.<ref>http://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=xwf</ref>
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