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== About Responses for "errors" ==
== About Responses for "errors" ==


Hello, I'm new to WikiIslam and I made an edit to the page of "Scientific Errors in the Qur'an", yet you removed it and gave me a link for the page of responses (and thanks for that, by the way). But wouldn't it be better if the responses and claims are on the same page? (I mean that after every claim about an error, if someone wants to respond, the response is written under the claim so that all people can see the claim and response together and judge for themselves.) Currently, the reponses' page is separated from the claims' page, and it's only mentioned in the "see also" in the end, so if someone doesn't notice it (as I did), he would believe everything written there without hearing the counter-argument. I don't know if what I sent you should be sent to you, but if it shouldn't please tell me to whom I should send it to. Thanks. <small>&mdash;Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Nightmare140|Nightmare140]] ([[User talk:Nightmare140|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nightmare140|contribs]]) {{#if:|&#32; |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) </small>
Hello, I'm new to WikiIslam and I made an edit to the page of "Scientific Errors in the Quran", yet you removed it and gave me a link for the page of responses (and thanks for that, by the way). But wouldn't it be better if the responses and claims are on the same page? (I mean that after every claim about an error, if someone wants to respond, the response is written under the claim so that all people can see the claim and response together and judge for themselves.) Currently, the reponses' page is separated from the claims' page, and it's only mentioned in the "see also" in the end, so if someone doesn't notice it (as I did), he would believe everything written there without hearing the counter-argument. I don't know if what I sent you should be sent to you, but if it shouldn't please tell me to whom I should send it to. Thanks. <small>&mdash;Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Nightmare140|Nightmare140]] ([[User talk:Nightmare140|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nightmare140|contribs]]) {{#if:|&#32; |}} ([[WikiIslam:Signatures#Signing_Posts|Remember to sign your comments]]) </small>
:This is a site which focuses on criticism of Islam so that will always be given priority. You can edit the Responses page and we're already being pretty fair by even allowing responses. As for them being on the same page, no we cant do that. That would interrupt the reading experience of people who are interesting in criticism of Islam. A responses page also gives you the freedom to make the page look like whatever you want and not have it interrupted by the other side's arguments. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 14:51, 15 May 2014 (PDT)
:This is a site which focuses on criticism of Islam so that will always be given priority. You can edit the Responses page and we're already being pretty fair by even allowing responses. As for them being on the same page, no we cant do that. That would interrupt the reading experience of people who are interesting in criticism of Islam. A responses page also gives you the freedom to make the page look like whatever you want and not have it interrupted by the other side's arguments. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 14:51, 15 May 2014 (PDT)


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::Currently the universe from smoke verse (41:11) is inside another section "earth created before stars". It seems to fit there but we need separate section or sub-section to expand there, then we link the smoke article. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:44, 21 June 2014 (PDT)
::Currently the universe from smoke verse (41:11) is inside another section "earth created before stars". It seems to fit there but we need separate section or sub-section to expand there, then we link the smoke article. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:44, 21 June 2014 (PDT)
:::Which article and section? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 12:55, 21 June 2014 (PDT)
:::Which article and section? --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 12:55, 21 June 2014 (PDT)
:::: [[Scientific Errors in the Qur'an#Earth Created before Stars]] [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:05, 22 June 2014 (PDT)
:::: [[Scientific Errors in the Quran#Earth Created before Stars]] [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:05, 22 June 2014 (PDT)
:::::Ok yea I see now, yea you're right. The Smoke article is not linked anywhere on that Errors page. There can be a new section in Astrology[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#Astronomy] called "Creation of Universe from Smoke" etc, the smoke verse can be repeated in that new section and the smoke article [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quran_and_a_Universe_from_Smoke] can be linked there after a brief discussion like for the others. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 08:09, 22 June 2014 (PDT)
:::::Ok yea I see now, yea you're right. The Smoke article is not linked anywhere on that Errors page. There can be a new section in Astrology[http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an#Astronomy] called "Creation of Universe from Smoke" etc, the smoke verse can be repeated in that new section and the smoke article [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quran_and_a_Universe_from_Smoke] can be linked there after a brief discussion like for the others. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 08:09, 22 June 2014 (PDT)
::::::Hold on, i noticed more; right above this verse is its contradiction (earth and heavens were one piece and then got seperated). This may also need a section, because no such event took place hence it is in error. But the common error is "earth is old as rest of universe." So do you really want a repeat of both the verses to push in more discussion? How 2 subsections to the existing section "Earth created before stars"? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 09:45, 22 June 2014 (PDT)
::::::Hold on, i noticed more; right above this verse is its contradiction (earth and heavens were one piece and then got seperated). This may also need a section, because no such event took place hence it is in error. But the common error is "earth is old as rest of universe." So do you really want a repeat of both the verses to push in more discussion? How 2 subsections to the existing section "Earth created before stars"? [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 09:45, 22 June 2014 (PDT)
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::::::::::Farsideology is great humor (one of my favourite series of pages) but its not suited for translation. We dont get much traffic on it. It has to be something which is useful in debate and entertaining the person who is already critical of Islam is not a priority so all those reasons together say its not a good candidate for translation. QHS would be great but there's so much. I'll still add it though. Scientific errors in hadith when we are sure its complete. There are enough translation candidates for now and even those havent been translated yet. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 13:58, 13 July 2014 (PDT)
::::::::::Farsideology is great humor (one of my favourite series of pages) but its not suited for translation. We dont get much traffic on it. It has to be something which is useful in debate and entertaining the person who is already critical of Islam is not a priority so all those reasons together say its not a good candidate for translation. QHS would be great but there's so much. I'll still add it though. Scientific errors in hadith when we are sure its complete. There are enough translation candidates for now and even those havent been translated yet. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 13:58, 13 July 2014 (PDT)


== [[Scientific Errors in the Qur'an]] to update ==
== [[Scientific Errors in the Quran]] to update ==


#'''Earth Created before Stars''' Verses are already there. So I just have to add sub-sections, more text and link to the smoke article. There is nothing to verify I think. All done in my sandbox.
#'''Earth Created before Stars''' Verses are already there. So I just have to add sub-sections, more text and link to the smoke article. There is nothing to verify I think. All done in my sandbox.
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