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== Scientific errors - response blog ==
== Scientific errors - response blog ==


Here's a blog that has some "refutations" of a small amount of errors. [http://quran-errors.blogspot.com/] These should be checked and used to further strengthen our page (without needing to specifically mention this blog). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 04:17, 14 June 2014 (PDT)
Here's a blog that has some "refutations" of a small amount of errors. [http://quran-errors.blogspot.com/] These should be checked and used to further strengthen [http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Qur%27an our page] (without needing to specifically mention this blog). --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 04:17, 14 June 2014 (PDT)
 
:*'''Universe contracting/Heaven is from Smoke:''' Why talk about galaxys and gas clouds? The verse says earth and heaven were coming together (and talking to Allah). Earth is as old as Galaxies? Nope.
:*'''Mountains:''' i think [http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Quran_and_Mountains this] is sufficient. They dont stabilize so they are not pegs.
:*'''Universe was made in 6 days:''' It was not made in 6 periods. There are no 6 periods. The best that guy could do was reject the backup hadith of Sahih Muslim.
:*'''Seven Planets''': rejecting a tafsir that does not support them. The seven planets have names, will add them soon.
:*'''Thunder is an Angel:''' Again rejecting a tafsir. I have added a similar hadith.
:*'''Moonlight:''' Nur never means reflected light. Poor guy wasted so much time. Ibn Kathir is also wrong (that moon light is different from the sun's).
:*Rest we have already covered: embryology, geocentric, flat earth.
:*'''Sun sets in a Muddy spring:''' We covered the word meanings. No use of the apologists dictionary, he cherrypicked meanings. Two or three scholars he quoted are utterly flimsy who make more errors defending one. Rest of scholars are tolerable, but still wrong as we have proven in the word analysis. The last part reminds me, do we have articles on hadith authenticity other than the list of fake hadiths?
:I will see how to add all the above, or it could be there already.
:[[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 13:43, 14 June 2014 (PDT)
::Yes, best to somehow improve the existing information on our side (if needed) or add additional supporting evidence where possible. A small "Responses to Apologetics" section can made for each error below the verse.
::Yes I saw that the blog has rejected the Tafsir. When all else fails they resort to "The Tafsir/hadith is weak". I'm sure every single hadith can be considered weak if all the chain of narrators are examined. They just do the analysis for the hadiths they dont like. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 19:04, 14 June 2014 (PDT)
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