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:: No, I think the article should show that Islam produces violence against both Muslims and non-Muslims. If it was only about killing non-Muslims, then one (Muslim) might think that after all non-Muslims are killed, there will be peace on earth. --[[User:Prekladator|Prekladator]] ([[User talk:Prekladator|talk]]) 06:11, 28 May 2017 (EDT)
:: No, I think the article should show that Islam produces violence against both Muslims and non-Muslims. If it was only about killing non-Muslims, then one (Muslim) might think that after all non-Muslims are killed, there will be peace on earth. --[[User:Prekladator|Prekladator]] ([[User talk:Prekladator|talk]]) 06:11, 28 May 2017 (EDT)
:::You bet. [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 06:22, 28 May 2017 (EDT)
Can you aprove [https://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=Questions_to_Ask_About_Islam&oldid=111694&diff=cur this page]? Not too time consuming but has many added interesting questions for Muslims (maybe can be expanded). [[User:Saggy|Saggy]] ([[User talk:Saggy|talk]]) 07:14, 15 July 2017 (EDT)
== Good day ==
Good day. I would like to contact admins. Are yourself an admin? [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 18:35, 2 March 2018 (EST)
:: Hi, nope. I got only rights to write articles and accept pending changes. If you want someone all-powerful, [https://wikiislam.net/wiki/User_talk:Lightyears Lightyears] seems to be. Or just write into the [[WikiIslam:Discussions]]. [[User:Prekladator|Prekladator]] ([[User talk:Prekladator|talk]]) 02:19, 3 March 2018 (EST)
:::Both of them are not look very active. [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 14:41, 4 March 2018 (EST)
::::Hello again! Can you expand with some cruel names of Allah in your recent article? I can remember of reading names in the verses like the worst of deceivers and torturers. Can I add these names? [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 10:09, 17 June 2018 (EDT)
:::::I'm still working on that article. I will move it from "WikiIslam:Sandbox/99 names of Allah" to "99 names of Allah" when it's finished.  [[User:Prekladator|Prekladator]] ([[User talk:Prekladator|talk]]) 11:14, 17 June 2018 (EDT)
::::::Hello long time no see. I also was busy. I thought of putting some of the things came to my mind before I forget. I also thought of making a separate sand box but the admin told me not to make any sand boxes. so I have expanded this portion for you: [https://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Sandbox/99_names_of_Allah#One_name_is_enough_to_raise_a_thousand_questions_and_probably_defeat_Islam]. I pray it is ok! [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 17:58, 24 June 2018 (EDT)
:::::::grrr.. I will finish it. I just don't have the time currently. Of course I know about the "best deceiver" thing and I was planning to include it. I think admins, by telling you not to make sandboxes and stuff, they are trying to politely say to stop adding stuff, because your contributions are not scholarly enough. For example in your contribution, "and probably defeat Islam" is just an opinion. Rather show people the facts and let them use their own brain and decide whether Islam is right or wrong. And the last sentences seem to assume that the existence of Satan is an established fact. [[User:Prekladator|Prekladator]] ([[User talk:Prekladator|talk]]) 16:37, 25 June 2018 (EDT)
:::::::::Sorry. Let me try to  make it right. [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 14:29, 26 June 2018 (EDT)
Good day. Can I edit your latest article? [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 17:21, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
:: Yes. I'm not going to add anything to it now, although I know it could be expanded a lot. I just hope that you want to add something valuable. [[User:Prekladator|Prekladator]] ([[User talk:Prekladator|talk]]) 17:25, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Of course I want to. [[User:Guillotino|Guillotino]] ([[User talk:Guillotino|talk]]) 18:12, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

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Whale

I recollected that I had made long ago some notes on the whale here. One or two of the sources are the same as the main whale article. Good for yuo to expand instead of translating! Saggy (talk) 15:22, 14 January 2017 (EST)

WikiIslam:Sandbox/Diversity in Islam

What columns do you plan to add in it? Saggy (talk) 03:09, 1 April 2017 (EDT)

I don't know, maybe "Tolerate homosexuality"? Just controversial topics that most of the sects would agree on. You can work on it if you want. --Prekladator (talk) 05:50, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
Ok. topics should be Vertical or horizontal? If we get too many topics... Saggy (talk) 09:15, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
I personally would let it as it is. The sects list is also not complete. I think Ahmadiyya is divided into two sects, one thinks Mirza was a nabi and the other rejects it. There are also sufi, salafi.. I think that if there were too many columns, then we could create more tables and instead of "Overview", every table would have a name like "Women", "Violence" etc.
Also I was planning above the table to have some info about those sects like "sunni" with subsections hanbali, salafi etc. and the table(s) would be only an overview. --Prekladator (talk) 10:37, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
Now I realized, topics should definitely be as they are - in columns, so that people can sort the column by yes and no, so that they can easily find sects that say yes. --Prekladator (talk) 10:49, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
And I got two more things to say. I think we should use the Discussion page for the aricle to talk about it so that other understand why it is as it is. And second, I got exhausted by looking for references in those big Arabic books and that's why I stopped working on it. So maybe some english sources would be better. Although I wanted to use the primary sources of the sect. Also I am afraid that english materials will be too modern and not as barabaric as the Arabic originals. --Prekladator (talk) 11:11, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
Ok we will take it to that article's page. Saggy (talk) 16:12, 1 April 2017 (EDT)

Hie. The table is not becoming larger on right side. do you know how to fix this? Saggy (talk) 09:46, 9 April 2017 (EDT)

In columns or cells? Cells are added by putting the "||"s on every row. --Prekladator (talk) 05:56, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
I did that but the screen does not become scrollable to right side. Saggy (talk) 14:57, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
That would be ugly. I have divided it. But now I think that this article will take infinite time. Either we need someone who studied Islam in Arabic to fill it, or we should at least finish some columns and publish at least a smaller table. I think there eventually should be two pages, one in the sandbox (unfinished) and one in the main-space (smaller, but with all answers and referenced). --Prekladator (talk) 19:20, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
Taking it to article's talk page. Saggy (talk) 11:35, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

Need an opinion on genocides

Here is the list I made and expanded [1]. I am reading nowadays about many Muslims massacring Muslims throughout history. If I continue with listing all these massacres, do you think it weakens the article? Saggy (talk) 12:58, 27 May 2017 (EDT)

No, I think the article should show that Islam produces violence against both Muslims and non-Muslims. If it was only about killing non-Muslims, then one (Muslim) might think that after all non-Muslims are killed, there will be peace on earth. --Prekladator (talk) 06:11, 28 May 2017 (EDT)
You bet. Saggy (talk) 06:22, 28 May 2017 (EDT)

Can you aprove this page? Not too time consuming but has many added interesting questions for Muslims (maybe can be expanded). Saggy (talk) 07:14, 15 July 2017 (EDT)

Good day

Good day. I would like to contact admins. Are yourself an admin? Guillotino (talk) 18:35, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Hi, nope. I got only rights to write articles and accept pending changes. If you want someone all-powerful, Lightyears seems to be. Or just write into the WikiIslam:Discussions. Prekladator (talk) 02:19, 3 March 2018 (EST)
Both of them are not look very active. Guillotino (talk) 14:41, 4 March 2018 (EST)
Hello again! Can you expand with some cruel names of Allah in your recent article? I can remember of reading names in the verses like the worst of deceivers and torturers. Can I add these names? Guillotino (talk) 10:09, 17 June 2018 (EDT)
I'm still working on that article. I will move it from "WikiIslam:Sandbox/99 names of Allah" to "99 names of Allah" when it's finished. Prekladator (talk) 11:14, 17 June 2018 (EDT)
Hello long time no see. I also was busy. I thought of putting some of the things came to my mind before I forget. I also thought of making a separate sand box but the admin told me not to make any sand boxes. so I have expanded this portion for you: [2]. I pray it is ok! Guillotino (talk) 17:58, 24 June 2018 (EDT)
grrr.. I will finish it. I just don't have the time currently. Of course I know about the "best deceiver" thing and I was planning to include it. I think admins, by telling you not to make sandboxes and stuff, they are trying to politely say to stop adding stuff, because your contributions are not scholarly enough. For example in your contribution, "and probably defeat Islam" is just an opinion. Rather show people the facts and let them use their own brain and decide whether Islam is right or wrong. And the last sentences seem to assume that the existence of Satan is an established fact. Prekladator (talk) 16:37, 25 June 2018 (EDT)
Sorry. Let me try to make it right. Guillotino (talk) 14:29, 26 June 2018 (EDT)

Good day. Can I edit your latest article? Guillotino (talk) 17:21, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes. I'm not going to add anything to it now, although I know it could be expanded a lot. I just hope that you want to add something valuable. Prekladator (talk) 17:25, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Of course I want to. Guillotino (talk) 18:12, 28 July 2018 (UTC)