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While Islam critics claim that:  
While Islam critics claim that:  


* 'Iddah rulings are illogical, and thus they have contradictions.
*'Iddah rulings are illogical, and thus they have contradictions.
* And all these restrictions of 'Iddah are only targeting the women and only women have to suffer unilaterally.  
*And all these restrictions of 'Iddah are only targeting the women and only women have to suffer unilaterally.


==‘Iddah and the ‘parentage’ of the child==
==‘Iddah and the ‘parentage’ of the child==
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*After this first menstrual cycle, Muslim men are allowed to have sex with them.
*After this first menstrual cycle, Muslim men are allowed to have sex with them.
*Muhammad himself had sex with Saffiyah the same night, when in the day her father, brother and husband was killed, while she became free from blood of her first menstrual cycle the same day<ref>[https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/251 Sahih Bukhari:2158]</ref>. Muhammad married her as a free woman.
*Muhammad himself had sex with Saffiyah the same night, when in the day her father, brother and husband was killed, while she became free from blood of her first menstrual cycle the same day<ref>[https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/251 Sahih Bukhari:2158]</ref>. Muhammad married her as a free woman.
*Thus 3 monthly cycle 'Iddah of divorced woman, or 4 months 10 days 'Iddah of a widow, or the birth of child in case of pregnant woman has nothing to do with the parentage of the child.  
*Thus 3 monthly cycle 'Iddah of divorced woman, or 4 months 10 days 'Iddah of a widow, or the birth of child in case of pregnant woman has nothing to do with the parentage of the child.


== Restrictions upon the women during 'Iddah: ==
==Restrictions upon the women during 'Iddah:==


===First Restriction: She has to obligatorily stay only in the house of Husband during ‘Iddah===
===First Restriction: She has to obligatorily stay only in the house of Husband during ‘Iddah===
According to Sharia'h, If the husband dies:
According to Sharia'h, If the husband dies:


* then a woman has to stay ONLY in the house of her husband during this whole period of 'Iddah.  
*then a woman has to stay ONLY in the house of her husband during this whole period of 'Iddah.
* She is not allowed to spend this time of 'Iddah in any other place (like house of her parents or any other family members)<ref>Fatwas Website Islamqa.Org. [https://web.archive.org/web/20211028112250/https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askmufti/45291/laws-of-the-iddat/ Laws of Iddat].</ref>.
*She is not allowed to spend this time of 'Iddah in any other place (like house of her parents or any other family members)<ref>Fatwas Website Islamqa.Org. [https://web.archive.org/web/20211028112250/https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askmufti/45291/laws-of-the-iddat/ Laws of Iddat].</ref>.


Islam critics object here that:  
Islam critics object here that:  


*What does that have to do with the ‘parentage’ of the child where does she live after the death of her husband?
*What does that have to do with the ‘parentage’ of the child where does she live after the death of her husband?
*Why could she not spend the waiting period in the house of her parents, where she feels comfortable and where she is among the people who love her?  
*Why could she not spend the waiting period in the house of her parents, where she feels comfortable and where she is among the people who love her?
*While in the house of her husband, she could be all alone, and she has to live like she is in a Solitary confinement.  
*While in the house of her husband, she could be all alone, and she has to live like she is in a Solitary confinement.
*Moreover, it could be a huge mental torture for women to live for 4 long months in the house where their husbands died. Why Allah is not able to feel this mental torture of women?
*Moreover, it could be a huge mental torture for women to live for 4 long months in the house where their husbands died. Why Allah is not able to feel this mental torture of women?
*And if she is pregnant, it could be a period of up to 9 long months, where she has a baby in her belly, and she is alone in solitary confinement like situation in the house where her husband died.
*And if she is pregnant, it could be a period of up to 9 long months, where she has a baby in her belly, and she is alone in solitary confinement like situation in the house where her husband died.


===Second Restriction: She has to stay in the husband’s house, even if it doesn’t belong to him, or even if he hasn’t left any maintenance money for the wife===
===Second Restriction: She has to stay in the husband’s house, even if it doesn’t belong to him, or even if he hasn’t left any maintenance money for the wife===
{{Quote|{{Abudawud||2300|hasan}}|Furay'ah said that she came to the Messenger of Allah and asked him whether she could return to her people, Banu Khidrah, for her husband went out seeking his slaves who ran away. When they met him at al-Qudum, they murdered him.
{{Quote|{{Abudawud||2300|darussalam}}|Furay'ah said that she came to the Messenger of Allah and asked him whether she could return to her people, Banu Khidrah, for her husband went out seeking his slaves who ran away. When they met him at al-Qudum, they murdered him.


So I asked the Messenger of Allah: "Should I return to my people, '''for he did not leave any dwelling house of his own and maintenance for me'''?
So I asked the Messenger of Allah: "Should I return to my people, '''for he did not leave any dwelling house of his own and maintenance for me'''?

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‘Iddah (i.e. waiting period)

‘Iddah[1] (waiting period) of different kind of women in Islam is as under:

  • A widow woman: Waiting period is 4 months and 10 days
  • A pregnant woman: Waiting period is up to 9 months (till the birth of the baby)
  • A divorced woman: Waiting period is 3 menstrual cycles. (However, Islam critics point out that actually she will not get the attention and love and emotional help from any man for 6 menstrual cycles. The first 3 menstrual cycles are the process of Divorce, in which she could not leave the husband's house, and her husband does not touch her. And after divorce, again she has to stay in the waiting period of 3 more menstrual cycles with many restrictions, especially to come in contact with any man. She stays practically in this situation for about 6 months).

Muslim Scholars claim that rulings of 'Iddah could neither be abolished, nor changed as the rulings of the Islamic Sharia are based upon wisdom, justice and the best interests of the women, and they protect the women against the gender oppression and misogyny, while the man made laws of the modern Western world lead to the sexual exploitation of the women[2][3].

While Islam critics claim that:

  • 'Iddah rulings are illogical, and thus they have contradictions.
  • And all these restrictions of 'Iddah are only targeting the women and only women have to suffer unilaterally.

‘Iddah and the ‘parentage’ of the child

Islam advocates claim that ‘Iddah is necessary in order to keep the ‘parentage’ of the child safe.

But the Islam critics object ,and present the following arguments:

  • Becoming free of blood of the first menstrual cycle is enough to know if the woman is pregnant or not, and about the “parentage” of the child.
  • That is why Islam itself stipulated the ‘Iddah (waiting period) of only one menstrual cycle for the prisoner/slave woman[4], and a free Muslim woman who takes divorce through Khul'[5].
  • After this first menstrual cycle, Muslim men are allowed to have sex with them.
  • Muhammad himself had sex with Saffiyah the same night, when in the day her father, brother and husband was killed, while she became free from blood of her first menstrual cycle the same day[6]. Muhammad married her as a free woman.
  • Thus 3 monthly cycle 'Iddah of divorced woman, or 4 months 10 days 'Iddah of a widow, or the birth of child in case of pregnant woman has nothing to do with the parentage of the child.

Restrictions upon the women during 'Iddah:

First Restriction: She has to obligatorily stay only in the house of Husband during ‘Iddah

According to Sharia'h, If the husband dies:

  • then a woman has to stay ONLY in the house of her husband during this whole period of 'Iddah.
  • She is not allowed to spend this time of 'Iddah in any other place (like house of her parents or any other family members)[7].

Islam critics object here that:

  • What does that have to do with the ‘parentage’ of the child where does she live after the death of her husband?
  • Why could she not spend the waiting period in the house of her parents, where she feels comfortable and where she is among the people who love her?
  • While in the house of her husband, she could be all alone, and she has to live like she is in a Solitary confinement.
  • Moreover, it could be a huge mental torture for women to live for 4 long months in the house where their husbands died. Why Allah is not able to feel this mental torture of women?
  • And if she is pregnant, it could be a period of up to 9 long months, where she has a baby in her belly, and she is alone in solitary confinement like situation in the house where her husband died.

Second Restriction: She has to stay in the husband’s house, even if it doesn’t belong to him, or even if he hasn’t left any maintenance money for the wife

Furay'ah said that she came to the Messenger of Allah and asked him whether she could return to her people, Banu Khidrah, for her husband went out seeking his slaves who ran away. When they met him at al-Qudum, they murdered him.

So I asked the Messenger of Allah: "Should I return to my people, for he did not leave any dwelling house of his own and maintenance for me?

She said: The Messenger of Allah replied: Yes. She said: I came out, and when I was in the apartment or in the mosque, he called for me, or he commanded (someone to call me) and, therefore, I was called.

He said: what did you say? So I repeated my story which I had already mentioned about my husband.

Thereupon he said: Stay in your house till the term (of four months and 10 days) lapses.

She said: So I passed my waiting period in it (her house) for four months and ten days. When Uthman ibn Affan became caliph, he sent for me and asked me about that; so I informed him, and he followed it and decided cases accordingly.

Sunnan Abu Dawud, Book of Divorce:

Furay'ah said that she came to the Messenger of Allah and asked him whether she could return to her people, Banu Khidrah, for her husband went out seeking his slaves who ran away. When they met him at al-Qudum, they murdered him.

So I asked the Messenger of Allah: "Should I return to my people, for he did not leave any dwelling house of his own and maintenance for me?

She said: The Messenger of Allah replied: Yes. She said: I came out, and when I was in the apartment or in the mosque, he called for me, or he commanded (someone to call me) and, therefore, I was called.

He said: what did you say? So I repeated my story which I had already mentioned about my husband.

Thereupon he said: Stay in your house till the term (of four months and 10 days) lapses.

She said: So I passed my waiting period in it (her house) for four months and ten days. When Uthman ibn Affan became caliph, he sent for me and asked me about that; so I informed him, and he followed it and decided cases accordingly.

This is simply the Peak of illogicality.

How is she going to pay the rent of the house?

Why is she compelled to bear the expenses of her daily needs on her own, while her family could take care of it easily if she stays in the house of her parents/brothers/sisters.

Third Restriction: She could not leave the house even for daily walks, or visit the relatives or attend any social gathering

Women are human beings. They thus also need to entertain themselves buy going out in the parks, and daily walks, and shopping, and eating in restaurants, attending the parties, sleeping at her parents house, visiting her relatives etc.

But Allah/Muhammad prohibited for a woman from all this. And what to talk about the social gatherings, she could not even attend the funeral of her parents (Link):

Q: Is a woman allowed to visit family members like her parents or sisters if she is observing iddat and use the excuse that she will be with her family so she doesn’t  see the problem? A: A woman who has been divorced is not allowed to leave the confines of her home during the iddat for whatever reason, be it to visit friends or relatives or to attend the funeral of even her parents.

She could also not go outside for daily walks, as they are not a necessity (Fatwa 1, Fatwa 2).


Fourth Restriction: She could not even use collyrium/kohl in eyes despite eye disease, while it beautifies her

Although a woman is allowed to take medical care during ‘Iddah, still she should not use collyrium/kohl as a cure even against any eye disease, while it beautifies her.

Sahih Bukhari, Book of Divorce:

Um Salama said that a woman came to Allah's Messenger and said, "O Allah's Messenger ! The husband of my daughter has died and she is suffering from an eye disease. Can she apply  collyrium/kohl to her eye?" Allah's Messenger replied, "No," twice or thrice. (Every time she repeated her question) he said, "No."


Fifth Restriction: Women are not allowed to use good clothes, jewelry, perfume, Henna and comb the hairs with only leaves of lote-tree

Mishkat al-Masabih 3333:

Umm Salama said: God’s Messenger came to visit me when Abu Salama died, and I had put the juice of aloes on myself. He asked me what it was, and I told him it was only the juice of aloes and contained no perfume, so he said, “It gives the face a glow, so apply it only at night and remove it in the daytime, and do not comb yourself with scent or henna, for it is a dye.” I asked God’s Messenger what I should use when combing myself, and he told me to use lote-tree leaves and smear my head copiously with them. Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani declared this Hadith to be FAIR (حسن) (link).


Sixth Restriction: She should give up her Natural needs of getting any emotional support and attention and love from any other partner during the ‘Iddah

Need of sex is not only limited to men, but it is a natural need of woman too. But Allah/Muhammad does not recognise this right and natural need of a woman, and they have limited it to the man only. Thus, a woman is not allowed to have sex with any partner for this long period of time of ‘Iddah.

But sex is not the only problem, while divorce or death of husband also comes with extreme Emotional Stress for the woman. This is exactly the time when she needs emotional support from a caring partner the most, who could give attention to her, talk with her and give her love, so that she feels herself “secure” in his arms.

But Allah/Muhammad deprived her exactly from this emotional support and security too.

Seventh Restriction: She could not secure herself and her children financially through relationship with any partner in the ‘Iddah

We have seen the Hadith above of Furay'ah, that she had to stay in the waiting period in the house of her deceased husband, even though he had left no maintenance money for her.

And women in Islamic society are poorly educated. And Islamic society also does not provide women with job opportunities too, but she has to face so many hurdles in doing a job outside.

The best bet for such a divorced/widow woman (even if she is pregnant) is to get another partner and get herself and her children financially secured in this way.

But Allah/Muhammad also completely  blocked woman this opportunity too.

Neither other men are allowed to see her, nor to meet her and decide if they could come into the relationship, nor they could make any proposal to them.

She is all alone during the ‘Iddah period to financially secure herself and her children.

Muslim Excuse: Strict 'restrictions' are placed upon the divorced woman during the 'Iddah due to the danger of sin

This excuse is also illogical, while:

  • If normal Muslim women (or even the virgin Muslim girls) are allowed to go outside to entertain themselves in the Parks, and for picnic, and attend the social gatherings, and visit their relatives, and sleep in their parent's home, and attend the funerals of their parents and they don't indulge into sin, why then a divorced woman will indulge in the sin for doing these same things?
  • And if normal Muslim women (or even the virgin Muslim girls) are allowed to use the Kohl in their eyes, and parfum, and comb their hairs, and use the jewelry, and to wear good clothes, and use henna, or to wash their faces with Aloe, and still they don't indulge into sin, why then a divorced woman will indulge in the sin for doing the same thing?


Muhammad copied this illogical practice of ‘Iddah from the pre-Islamic period of so-called Ignorance

Muhammad copied this ‘Iddah from the culture of people of Pre-Islam period of so-called ignorance.

Just check the brainless logic of Muhammad for putting all these oppressive restrictions upon the woman in the name of ‘Iddah, where he told them to not to complaint against the Islamic Iddah, while they had to stay even longer in ‘Iddah during the pre-Islamic days.

Sahih Bukhari, Book of Divorce:

Um Salama said that a woman came to Allah's Messenger and said, "O Allah's Messenger ! The husband of my daughter has died and she is suffering from an eye disease. Can she apply  collyrium/kohl to her eye?" Allah's Messenger replied, "No," twice or thrice. (Every time she repeated her question) he said, "No." Then Allah's Messenger added, "It is just a matter of four months and ten days. In the Pre-Islamic Period of ignorance a widow among you should throw a globe of dung when one year has elapsed (i.e. she had to stay in ‘Iddah for the whole one year)."


Muslim Excuse about the ‘Iddah of a widow women

This long ‘Iddah of 4 months and 10 days of a widow has nothing to do with the parentage of the child, while:

  • It is  possible to be determined even at time of the first menstrual cycle.
  • A virgin wife, i.e. the one who hasn't moved out to her husband house, and has never seen him, must also undergo the 'Iddah of 4 months and 10 days.
  • And a wife who hasn't seen her husband for years, should also undergo the sufferings of 'Iddah for this long period.

The only excuse which has been presented by Muslims for this long waiting period is that she should “MOURN” the death of her husband.


Double Standards of Allah/Muhammad:

Are you able to see these Double Standards, where:

  • There is no obligation of any “mourning” upon a man if the wife dies.
  • And he is totally free to marry a new wife the same day.
  • And he is also totally free to have sex with his other wives and dozens of slave girls the same night, and there is no restriction upon him in name of ‘mourning’.
  • But only the woman is compelled to ‘mourn’ the death of her husband.
  • She is deprived of her Natural Needs in the name of ‘mourning’.
  • And simple mourning was not enough, but Allah/Muhammad put a lot more of other oppressive restrictions too upon her in name of ‘mourning’.


Moreover, please also consider the following cases, and tell us why she should obligatorily mourn his death.

  • What if she hardly saw him after the marriage, while he had other wives and slave girls, or if died immediately after the marriage? Thus why should she mourn if she feels no emotional connection and love for him in her heart?
  • What if the husband was abusive and he tortured her when he was alive, and thus she HATED him?` Remember a woman does not have a right to get her freedom even through Khul’ if an abusive husband does not agree upon it. Not even a court could compel him to give her Divorce or Khul’ despite torturing her brutally and even if she gets bruises over her skin all over her body. Court could only compel him for Khul’ if he breaks any bone or part of wife’s body during the torture session (Please read our Khul’ article for the details). So, why should she still obligatorily mourn such an abusive husband?

This is absolutely cruel to still compel the woman for such a long obligatorily waiting period, with so many inhumane restrictions, where she is in a solitary confinement like situation.


Therefore, Islam could have left it upon the woman:

  • That she could decide for herself if she loved her deceased husband or not.
  • That she decides herself to mourn his death or not.
  • That she decides how long she wants to mourn, and when she is ready for the new relationship.
  • That she decides if living in her deceased husband’s house is causing her unnecessary mental stress or not.
  • That she decides for herself if she needs the help and love of her parents and family or not by staying with them.

Why does Allah/Muhammad consider a woman a “Brainless Creature”, who is unable to even decide for the matters which are only related to her and her personal life?

Injustice upon the Pregnant woman in name of ‘Iddah

According to the Quran, the waiting period of a pregnant woman is till the Birth of a child (Quran 65:4).

And then Muhammad further told the Scientific LOGIC behind this Quranic order:

Sunnan Abu Dawud, Book of Marriage:

The Messenger of Allah said: It is not lawful for a man who believes in Allah and the last day to water what another has sown with his water (meaning intercourse with a woman who is pregnant from her previous husband).

But this is a Scientific Mistake from Allah/Muhammad.

Science is very clear if woman has already become pregnant, then other man could do as much sex as possible, but his sperms are not going to have any effects upon the fetus (i.e. he is not going to water the fetus from previous man). No DNA changes are going to take place in the fetus due to the sex. These were the concepts of times of ignorance, and Allah/Muhammad were also prey of those ignorant and wrong concepts. Muhammad took this concept from the Jews.

But once again the poor pregnant woman has to bear the consequences of this ignorance of Allah/Muhammad.

  • The pregnant woman is alone after the death of her husband, and she is financially very weak.
  • What if the deceased husband has left no money for her and the baby?
  • And it is impossible for her to go to work outside while carrying the baby in her belly.
  • A woman is in a state of extreme emotion during the pregnancy. This is the time when she needs emotional support the most from a partner, who could take care of her.
  • But Allah/Muhammad made her helpless and compelled her exactly in this hard time to lead a solitary confinement like life.
  • She is compelled to face this difficult stage till birth of the baby alone.


In principle:

  • A pregnant woman should not go for ‘Iddah of even a single day, while the parentage of the child is already known due to her pregnancy.
  • If husband could divorce such a pregnant woman and then start having sex with dozens of other slave girls and wives, why then should the poor pregnant woman be deprived of the emotional support and love and attention and care of the new partner, in a hard time when she needs these things the most?


Injustice upon the divorced woman in name of ‘Iddah

Please note:

  • The whole process of Divorce + ‘Iddah lasts for 6 menstrual cycles for a divorced woman.
  • Muslim man forces her to lead a life of solitary confinement in his house for the 3 menstrual cycle during the process of 3 Talaqs.
  • He does not touch her during this period, but he is free to have sex with other wives and slave girlst during all this time.
  • And after the divorce, she again has to undergo a waiting period of 3 more menstrual cycles. But why? There is no logic behind it. There is no issue of parentage of the child either, while her husband didn’t touch her for the last 3 cycles. And there is no option of reunion of both of them after the divorce, till the time she undergoes the Quranic Halala. So, why is the poor woman then still forced to undergo solitary confinement for 3 more months in the name of ‘Iddah?


Muslim answer to this by saying:

  • She was ‘alone’ with her previous husband under one roof during the process of 3 Talaqs.
  • And the WITNESSES of man and woman are not accepted in Islam that they didn’t have sex during this period.
  • Being ‘alone’ under one roof is enough in Islam, to force the woman to undergo the waiting period, in order to determine if she is pregnant or not, and thus to make the parentage of the child safe.


But this Muslim answer makes absolutely no sense, while:

  • If the witness of ONLY man is accepted in the process of Talaq (i.e. he didn’t touch her for the last 3 menstrual cycles), and he gets her divorced on the bases of his single witness, why then the witnesses of BOTH the Man and Woman are rejected when they testify that they didn’t have the sex for the last 3 mentrual cycles, and thus she is not pregnant, and thus she does not need any further ‘Iddah in name of parentage of the child?
  • As compared to the rejection of witnesses of these 2 Free Adult Muslim Man and Woman, this same Islam allows the man to start having sex with the slave woman of another person, on the bases of singular testimony of the slave-girl that she is not pregnant. Fatawa Alamgiri, vol 3, page 268, Urdu edition (link): A Singular Report is enough on religious issues. Therefore, if a slave woman comes to any person and tells him that her master has gifted her to him, then that person could trust the testimony of that slave-girl and have sex with her.
  • And lastly, even one menstrual cycle is enough to know if she is pregnant or not (just like the prisoner/slave woman). Why then she still had to undergo the 3 menstrual cycles long waiting period? This again makes no sense.
  • And why should she not use perfume and make-up and make herself attractive to other men, as there is no option of returning to previous husband without the Halala?


Moreover, Islamic ruling of 'Iddah is also illogical in the following cases for the divorced woman:

  • A wife who hasn't seen her husband for years, should also undergo the sufferings of 'Iddah.
  • A minor girl (who has not started to menstruate), why then does she also have to undergo the waiting period of 3 months as she couldn't even get pregnant?
  • Similarly, an old woman could also not get pregnant, why then does also have to undergo the solitary confinement of ‘Iddah?


Muslim claim: 'Iddah is necessary while a women is emotionally disturbed after the divorce

An Islam apologist wrote:

"The last thing on a woman's mind after she has got divorced is intimacy. She is mentally disturbed and needs time to come out of this shock"

Answer:

The answer is simple:

  • i.e. to let the women decide for themselves. If they don't have wish, then no one should force them into any relationship.
  • If they wish to not to enter into the new relationship, then what to talk about 3 menstrual cycles of 'Iddah, they could stay out of any new relationship for an year or longer as they wish.
  • But if they wish otherwise, and decide to enter into a new relationship just after the divorce, then no one should stop them. There could be many women for whom divorce is not a mental shock, but divorce is a form of  freedom for them and it is a 'mental relief' for them to come out of abusive relationship.
  • Why Islam forcefully imposes itself upon the masses, killing the wishes and the right of self-determination of millions of women.
  • Wy Mr. Religion thinks that women are 'brainless Creatures' who could not even decide for their personal lives?
  • It would become double standards of Islam if it considers that men are not mentally disturbed from Talaq, and thus have the right to decide for themselves to have sex with multiple other slave women or wives the same night, or to take marry another wife same night, but only women are unable to decide for themselves.


Moreover:

  • Islam itself allowed the pregnant woman to deliver a child after divorce (be it only few hours), and then immediately wed to another man. This proves that Islam itself doesn't consider that all women are necessarily mentally stressed, or emotionally attached with the previous husbands despite the divorce.
  • Muhammad himself married Saffiyah the same night, when in the day her husband was killed, and Muhammad didn't care if she was mentally stressed or emotionally attached with her husband.  


Not only ‘Iddah, but the process of Islamic Talaq is itself is an Injustice against the woman

Not only the ‘Iddah is cruel, but itself the Islamic process of 3 menstrual cycles long “Talaq” is an oppression and great injustice against the woman:

  • Muslims claim that a woman has to stay in the house of husband for 3 menstrual cycles, while this could provide them with the chance to have a ‘settlement’.
  • But what if the husband is an abusive evil person? What if he tortures her all this period without any reason? What if he beats her so wildly that she gets bruises all over her body? (Note: According to Islam, even courts could not compel him to divorce her on the bases of bruises on her body. Even if he exceeds the limits and breaks any part of her body, still she will not get her freedom automatically, but at least in this case courts could ask her to pay her “ransom money” and then separate from that abusive man).
  • Only the woman is forced to sacrifice in the name of so-called “Settlement” in this Islamic Talaq process, as she could not even visit her parents and she is in solitary confinement alone. While the husband has to bring no sacrifice. He is free to have sex with all other wives and slave girls, and to visit his relatives and do whatever he wants.


Moreover:

  • Is there any guarantee that this dispute between husband and wife is going to resolve in 3 months time of Talaq process?
  • Is it not possible that it may take more than 3 months that both of them come back in their senses and end the dispute after this period? For example, a man comes back to his senses after 1 years, and realises that it was a mistake to divorce his wife and she was totally innocent. Then what are the options available there to undo this mistake? The answer is, there are NO more options available, while she could not return to him without undergoing the shameful process of Halala. In simple words, there is absolutely no 'wisdom' in this so called divine ruling.


Moreover:

  • Islam compels the woman to stay in the house of husband during the process of Talaq.
  • While it has been seen that in case of disputes, it could also be helpful that both parties take a break from each other and live separately for some period of time.
  • This provides both parties with chance to ponder upon, and to learn from their mistakes in a better way and they realise their mistakes in a better way.
  • When wife has to face the difficulties in living in house of her parents or brothers/sisters, then she realises quickly the importance of house of her husband. And when husband has to do all the work in the house alone, and has to take care of the children alone too, then he also realises his mistake quickly.
  • But Islam closed this option for them by ordering the woman for not leaving the husband's house even in case of serious disputes.


Pronouncing 3 Talaqs in one sitting is also illogical and great Injustice towards the woman

Another way of divorce in Islam is when a mone says three times Talaq in one sitting. But again it is illogical and unjust, while:

  • Only may is allowed to give Talaq in this way. Why these double standards? Answer is this that Allah/Muhammad consider woman a "Brainless Creature", who is emotionally unstable and thus does not take her own decisions regarding her own personal life.
  • And this Talaq becomes valid even if the wife was totally innocent, and he only pronounced 3 Talaqs in ANGER. Yes, although Islam considers only women as emotionally unstable, but the reality is this that men could also become totally emotionally unstable, especially in the state of Anger and they are capable of doing every kind of stupid things, including killing others.
  • What type of Divine Wisdom is this, then to give right to such emotionally unstable men in anger to divorce their wives in 3 seconds, by saying 3 times Talaq Talaq Talaq?
  • The consequences of such 3 times Talaq in anger has to be bear by the poor innocent wife, where her whole family is destroyed and she may loose her children too.
  • And despite being totally innocent, again only she is forced to undergo the shameful process of Halala too, if she wishes to reunite with here family (i.e. husband and the children). Is it really that giving rights with Justice to the woman by Islam about which Muslims boast, as compared to the evil "Equal" rights to the women in the West?


Blackmailing the woman in name of so-called ‘Settlement’ in the Talaq Process

While only the woman suffers during the process of Islamic Talaq, thus it works as a weapon in hands of  an abusive husband, to blackmail the her unjustly, and to usurp her rights by compelling her to give up her rights.

(Quran 4:128-129) And if a woman fears from her husband contempt or evasion, there is no sin upon them if they make terms of settlement between them (i.e. woman agrees upon leaving some of her rights) … And you will never be able to do Justice (Arabic: تَعْدِلُوْا) between wives, even if you should strive [to do so].

Are you able to see the contradiction? Previously, in the verse 4:3, the writer of Quran put the condition of ‘ADL (i.e. Justice) for having more than one wife.

(Quran 4:3) If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.

But later Allah/Muhammad allowed the husband to blackmail the wife by threatening her with divorce, and showing contempt and evasion and thus compelling her to give away her rights in the name of settlement. Thus, the condition of Justice was abrogated for the so-called settlement which is always going in favor of the husband while he controls the right of giving divorce.

Muhammad himself threatened his wife Sawdah with Talaq (while she was older in age as compared to the other wives of Muhammad). Thus under this blackmailing, Sawadah started weeping and she came to ‘Aisha’s house and told Muhammad that she was ready to give her TURN To ‘Aisaha, but Muhammad should not make her homeless by divorcing her in that old age.  Remember, Sawdah served Muhammad the longest, and in the most difficult times. Still this didn’t stop Muhammad to usurp her right of turn.

Muslim Excuse: Some women keep on bleeding for three months after conceiving

Muslim come up with this excuse that some women keep on bleeding for three months even after conceiving, and thus Islamic ruling of 3 months of 'Iddah in case of divorce is correct.

Firstly:

  • Laws and rules are made on the bases of "Generality", and not on the bases of "Exceptions".
  • Islam itself does not accepts this "exceptional" incidents for making the "general laws".
  • Therefore, Islam itself made a law that the 'Iddah of a prisoner/slave woman is only one menstrual cycle.

Muslims try to come up with this next excuse that 'status' of slave woman is not equal to the the status of the free woman, and thus Islam is correct to extend the 'Iddah of free woman to 3 months in case of divorce. But this excuse becomes illogical while:

  • This issue is not about the 'status' of slave woman or the free woman, but the issue is about the 'parentage' of the child, which stays the same in both cases.
  • And even the 'Iddah of free Muslim woman in Islam in case of Khul' is only one menstrual cycle (link).
  • And also the 'Iddah of free Muslim woman who leaves her non-Muslim husband in the non-Islamic country, and enters into an Islamic state, is also only one menstrual cycle.
  • And Muhammad himself slept with Saffiyyah the same night when her first menstrual blood stopped. Note that Saffiyyah was not a slave, but a free woman when Muhammad took her as a wife.

Sahih Muslim, Book of Marriage (link):

Allah's Apostle emancipated Safiyya, and her emancipation was treated as her wedding gift.

Sahih Bukhari, Book of al-Maghazi (link):

Narrated Anas bin Malik: We arrived at Khaibar, and when Allah helped His Apostle to open the fort, the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtaq whose husband had been killed while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself, and set out with her, and when we reached a place called Sidd-as-Sahba,' Safiya became clean from her menses then Allah's Apostle took her into his bed.

The place of Sa`d-AsSahba is 14 miles away from Khaibar and it takes one day journey to reach Sa`d-AsSahba.


Reality is simple that:

  • There exists no Allah in the heavens.
  • Thus Muhammad had absolutely no idea of these exceptional cases where in some cases women could bleed for 3 cycles even after conceiving. There is absolutely no Hadith from Muhammad which tells about this exceptional cases.
  • Muhammad adopted the practice of 'Iddah, while it was the tradition of that era of ignorance, and Muhammad was a part of that society.
  • But in the modern era, when science discovered these facts, then Muslims now try to present these scientific discoveries as miracles of Islam.
  • But Muslims will fail, as contradictions in Islam will then occur (like Muslims having sex with prisoner/slave women and  while Muhammad had himself sex with Saffiyyah after only the first menstrual cycle.
  • And what about the (1) minor girl wife (who does not menstruate yet), or old ladies (who could not bear any children), or a woman who hasn't seen her husband for years? Allah/Muhammad ordered them too to observe the 'Iddah. But why? Again Muslims are unable to answer it using this newly invented excuse of exceptional cases too.


Muslim Excuse: A breastfeeding women could not bleed for 4 months even after conceiving

Answer is again the same that these are "exceptional" cases, while the laws are made upon the "generality". And if Muslims don't accept it, then Islam itself becomes illogical, and the prey of 'contradictions'. For example:

  • Then Allah/Muhammad had to limit the 4 months 'Iddah to the breastfeeding women ONLY. Why did then Allah/Muhammad let those women suffer too the hardships of 'Iddah, who don't breastfeed the babies?
  • And then Allah/Muhammad had to extend the 'Iddah of divorced women to 4 months, while 3 menstrual cycles make about 2 to 2+3/4 months at maximum, which means that the divorced women will bear the illegitimate bastard children due to this short 'Iddah.
  • And then Allah/Muhammad had also ordered that breastfeeding Slave-Mothers should also undergo the 'Iddah of 4 months, and they should not be raped by the owners after the first menstrual cycle, otherwise they would also bear only the bastard children.  

Therefore, if modern Islam Apologists try to misuse the modern scientific discoveries, then Islam will become even more illogical and even more contradictory, and Muslims could never answer these newly occurring contradictions.

Why no ‘Iddah in name of ‘mourning’ for the poor Prisoner/Slave Women?

Prisoner women and small prepubescent girls were innocent and they had absolutely no role in the wars. But still this didn’t stop Allah/Muhammad in punishing these innocent women/small girls and he allowed the Jihadists to rape them the same night, even though they had killed their fathers/brothers/husbands and sons the same day.

So, the question arises: Where has the element of ‘MOURNING’ gone in the case of these innocent prisoner women/small girls?

Muslim Jihadists were allowed to rape the virgin girls with ‘penetration’ the same night, without giving them any time to mourn their dead family members.

And as far as the prisoner women were concerned, who already had husbands, then penetration in their vaginas was not allowed. But still Muslim Jihadists were allowed to undress them and to take all kind of sexual pleasures with their naked bodies except for penetration.

Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqallani writes in his book “Fath-ul-Bari (link):

وقال عطاء لا بأس أن يصيب من جاريته الحامل ما دون الفرج

Translation:

Atta said: ‘There is no harm to drive sexual pleasure from the body of the pregnant slave/(or prisoner) woman except of vagina’

According to Islamic Scholars, the Fiqh (Jurisprudence) of Imam Bukhari lies in the “Headings of Chapters” of his Book. And Imam Bukhari gives this heading in his book Sahih Bukhari (link):

Chapter: If one buys a slave woman, can he then take her along with him in a journey without her completing her waiting period?

Under this heading, Imam Bukhari writes:

ولم ير الحسن بأسا أن يقبلها أو يباشرها. وقال ابن عمر ـ رضى الله عنهما ـ إذا وهبت الوليدة التي توطأ أو بيعت أو عتقت فليستبرأ رحمها بحيضة، ولا تستبرأ العذراء. وقال عطاء لا بأس أن يصيب من جاريته الحامل ما دون الفرج.

Translation:

Hasan Basri finds nothing objectionable in kissing a woman or to having sex with her. And Ibn Umar said that such a slave woman who is given as a present, or who is sold, or who is made free, but sex had been done with her before that, then she had to undergo a waiting period. And Atta said if a slave woman had become pregnant (from the earlier owner/husband), then still pleasure could be derived from the whole of her body, except for her vagina.

In order to understand the trauma of those captive women due to the killing of their relatives, please see the following tradition. History of Tabari, Volume 8, Page 112:

Ibn Ishaq said: After the Messenger of God conquered al-Qamus, Safiyyah bint Huyayy was brought to him, and another woman with her. Bilal (a companion), who was the one who brought them, led them past some of the slain Jews. When the woman who was with Safiyyah saw them, she cried out, struck her face, and poured dust on her head. When the Messenger of God saw her, he said, "Take this she-devil away from me!" ... The Messenger of God said to Bilal, when he saw the Jewish woman doing what he saw her do, "Are you devoid of mercy, Bilal, that you take two women past their slain men?"

So, why did Allah/Muhammad not allow any these poor prisoner women to ‘mourn’ their husbands and fathers and brothers and the sons?

Contrary to Allah/Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians allowed the prisoner women to mourn their relatives for one complete month, during which men were not allowed to rape them, or to take any other sex services.

Bible, Deuteronomy, Chap 21 (link):

Marrying a Captive Woman

(10) When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives,

(11) if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife.

(12) Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails

(13) and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.

(14) If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.

Muhammad rejected the Sharia of Moses in this case, and he followed the laws of the pagan Arab ignorant society of that time, as it benefitted him and the Muslims financially and they were free to seek sexual pleasures through raping the prisoner women the same night.

References

  1. In Islam, iddah or iddat (Arabic: العدة‎; period of waiting) is the period a woman must observe after the death of her husband or after a divorce, during which she may not marry another man.[1]
  2. Islam Question Answer Fatwa Website: Is it correct to think that fatwas may vary according to time and place?
  3. Women in Islamic Law: Examining Five Prevalent Myths
  4. Sunnan Abu Dawud: 2158
  5. Islam Question Answer Fatwa Website
  6. Sahih Bukhari:2158
  7. Fatwas Website Islamqa.Org. Laws of Iddat.