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The verse is problematic for multiple different reasons. For example, the available Saddi tafsir translated into Russian (not included in the article) admits that Allah may have the weaknesses his slaves will not be able to find out about. Another example is, if the verse is eternal past the demise of Muhammad, it can be argued that the verse prescribes that the Muslims must not question <i>anything</i> about Islam, including this very article and WikiIslam overall.
The verse is problematic for multiple different reasons. For example, the available Saadi tafsir (not included in the article) admits that Allah may have the weaknesses his slaves will not be able to find out about. Another example is, if the verse is eternal past the demise of Muhammad, it can be argued that the verse prescribes that the Muslims must not question <i>anything</i> about Islam, including this very article and WikiIslam overall.


To stay within the scope, this article will only focus on one particular teachings of the Quran, being that <b> the very act of asking questions during the process of the Quranic revelation can change the revelation.</b>
To stay within the scope, this article will only focus on one particular teachings of the Quran, being that <b> the very act of asking questions during the process of the Quranic revelation can change the revelation.</b>
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{{Quote|Jalal ad-Din al-Maḥalli and Jalal ad-Din as-Suyuti|
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The following was revealed when they began to ask the Prophet (ﷺ) too many questions: O you who believe, do not ask about things which, if disclosed to you, [if] revealed, would trouble you, because of the hardship that would ensue from them; <b>yet if you ask about them while the Qur’ān is being revealed, during the time of the Prophet (ﷺ), they will be disclosed to you: meaning that if you ask about certain things during his lifetime, the Qur’ān will reveal them, but once these things are disclosed, it will grieve you.</b> So do not ask about them; indeed: God has pardoned those things, you asked about, so do not ask again; for God is Forgiving, Forbearing.
The following was revealed when they began to ask the Prophet (ﷺ) too many questions: O you who believe, do not ask about things which, if disclosed to you, [if] revealed, would trouble you, because of the hardship that would ensue from them; <b>yet if you ask about them while the Qur’ān is being revealed, during the time of the Prophet (ﷺ), they will be disclosed to you: meaning that if you ask about certain things during his lifetime, the Qur’ān will reveal them, but once these things are disclosed, it will grieve you. So do not ask about them; indeed: God has pardoned those things, you asked about, so do not ask again</b>; for God is Forgiving, Forbearing.
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==== Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs ====
==== Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas ====


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(O ye who believe!) this was revealed about Harith Ibn Yazid who asked the Prophet (pbuh)-when the verse (And pilgrimage to the House is a duty unto Allah for mankind) was revealed: “Is it once every year, O Messenger of Allah?” So Allah forbade him from asking such questions, and started by addressing him with (O ye who believe!), <b>(Ask not) your Prophet (of things) that Allah has relieved you of (which, if they were made known unto you) if they were made obligatory upon you, (would trouble you; but if you ask of them) if you ask of the things that you were relieved of (when the Qur'an is being revealed) when Gabriel brings down the Qur'an,</b> (they will be made known unto you) they will be made obligatory upon you. (Allah pardoneth this) this questioning, (for Allah is Forgiving) of the one who repents, (Clement) vis-à-vis your ignorance.
(O ye who believe!) this was revealed about Harith Ibn Yazid who asked the Prophet (pbuh)-when the verse (And pilgrimage to the House is a duty unto Allah for mankind) was revealed: “Is it once every year, O Messenger of Allah?” So Allah forbade him from asking such questions, and started by addressing him with (O ye who believe!), <b>(Ask not) your Prophet (of things) that Allah has relieved you of (which, if they were made known unto you) if they were made obligatory upon you, (would trouble you; but if you ask of them) if you ask of the things that you were relieved of (when the Qur'an is being revealed) when Gabriel brings down the Qur'an, (they will be made known unto you) they will be made obligatory upon you.</b> (Allah pardoneth this) this questioning, (for Allah is Forgiving) of the one who repents, (Clement) vis-à-vis your ignorance.
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* <ref>{{external link| url = https://al-maktaba.org/book/7447/589| title = ص605 - الروايات التفسيرية في فتح الباري - سورة الرعد - المكتبة الشاملة الحديثة| publisher = Al-Maktaba | author = Fateh Al-Bari, entry #1168 | date = | archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20210727064025/https://al-maktaba.org/book/7447/589| deadurl = no}}</ref>
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* {{external link| url = https://al-maktaba.org/book/7447/589| title = ص605 - الروايات التفسيرية في فتح الباري - سورة الرعد - المكتبة الشاملة الحديثة| publisher = Al-Maktaba | author = Fateh Al-Bari, entry #1168 | date = | archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20210727064025/https://al-maktaba.org/book/7447/589| deadurl = no}}. Fath Al-Bari, published by Abdul Qadir Shaybah Al-Hamad in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 2001. ISBN: 9960207978<ref>{{external link| url = https://al-maktaba.org/book/7447/589| title = ص605 - الروايات التفسيرية في فتح الباري - سورة الرعد - المكتبة الشاملة الحديثة| publisher = Al-Maktaba | author = Fateh Al-Bari, entry #1168 | date = | archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20210727064025/https://al-maktaba.org/book/7447/589| deadurl = no}}. Fath Al-Bari, published by Abdul Qadir Shaybah Al-Hamad in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 2001. ISBN: 9960207978</ref>
 
* {{external link| url = https://archive.org/details/WAQfbssb/fbssb08/page/n230/mode/2up| title = Fateh Al-Bari (in Arabic), volume 8, page 231 (on the left) | publisher = archive.org| author = ابن حجر العسقلاني | date = | archiveurl =| deadurl = no}}<ref>{{external link| url = https://archive.org/details/WAQfbssb/fbssb08/page/n230/mode/2up| title = Fateh Al-Bari (in Arabic), volume 8, page 231 (on the left) | publisher = | author = ابن حجر العسقلاني | date = | archiveurl =| deadurl = no}}</ref> - hosted on archive.org, page of the v8 contains this story.


==== Tafsir Dur al Manthur ====
==== Tafsir Dur al Manthur ====
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