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Main article: [[Historical Errors in the Quran#Massive wall of iron]]
Main article: [[Historical Errors in the Quran#Massive wall of iron]]


Yājūj and Mājūj - Get hadith/tafsir with them being described as monsters - TMA video. Most say humans, some say mythical creatures. However regardless they are still mythical as clearly not trapped behind a giant wall until judgement day given we have explored the Earth and not found it.{{Quote|{{Quran|18|94}}|They said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, indeed Gog and Magog are [great] corrupters in the land. So may we assign for you an expenditure that you might make between us and them a barrier?"}}{{Quote|{{Quran|21|96}}|Until when [the dam of] Gog and Magog has been opened and they, from every elevation, descend}}
Yājūj and Mājūj - Get hadith/tafsir with them being described as monsters - TMA video. Most scholars (and hadith?) say humans, for example Ibn Kathir says they are also descents of Noah through his son Yafith (Japheth), who was the father of the Turks, Turk referring to the group of them who were left behind the barrier which was built by Dhul-Qarnayn,<ref>Ibn Kathir (d 1373.) [https://quranx.com/Tafsir/Kathir/21.95 ''Commentary on Verse 21:96 (95-97)'']</ref> some say mythical creatures. However regardless they are still mythical as clearly not trapped behind a giant wall until judgement day given we have explored the Earth and not found it.{{Quote|{{Quran|18|94}}|They said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, indeed Gog and Magog are [great] corrupters in the land. So may we assign for you an expenditure that you might make between us and them a barrier?"}}{{Quote|{{Quran|21|96}}|Until when [the dam of] Gog and Magog has been opened and they, from every elevation, descend}}
==== Buraq, the winged horse ====
==== Buraq, the winged horse ====
{{Main|Buraq}}While it took one week to travel from Mecca to Jerusalem (the location of the alleged 'farthest Mosque') by camel, the Qur'an states that a magical winged horse, called the Buraq, transported Muhammad from Mecca to Jerusalem in a matter of minutes. Creatures like the Buraq were common characters in near Easter myths.{{Quote|{{Quran|17|1}}|
{{Main|Buraq}}While it took one week to travel from Mecca to Jerusalem (the location of the alleged 'farthest Mosque') by camel, the Qur'an states that a magical winged horse, called the Buraq, transported Muhammad from Mecca to Jerusalem in a matter of minutes. Creatures like the Buraq were common characters in near Easter myths.{{Quote|{{Quran|17|1}}|
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While miracles by definition are supposed to defy the laws of nature and scientific explanation, the examples of myths and legends briefly listed in this section illustrate the pre-scientific worldview with which the Quran was composed.
While miracles by definition are supposed to defy the laws of nature and scientific explanation, the examples of myths and legends briefly listed in this section illustrate the pre-scientific worldview with which the Quran was composed.
=== Prophet Miracles ===
=== Prophet Miracles ===
=== Nūḥ ===
=== Noah (Nūḥ) ===
==== Lived to be 950 years old ====
==== Lived to be 950+ years old ====
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Noah is said to be be at least 950 years old, with many traditional Islamic commentators taking this to mean he was preaching for this long until the flood came, and was therefore older in total (many exegetes for example say he was granted prophethood at age 40),<ref>See commentaries from [https://quranx.com/tafsirs/29.14 ''Islamic scholars on Q29:14'']</ref> and we are not told how long he lives after these events, but this could easily push him to be over a 1,000 years old in total ( does this affect genetics?). No human can live this long. Interestingly none of his companions mention this, seem to think this is strange or a reason to believe his prophethood in the Qur'anic story.
 
{{Quote|{{Quran|29|14}}|Certainly We sent Noah to his people, and he remained with them for a thousand-less-fifty years. Then the flood overtook them while they were wrongdoers.}}
 
=== Adam (ʾĀdam) ===
=== Adam (ʾĀdam) ===
=== Abraham (Ibrahim) ===
=== Abraham (Ibrahim) ===
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