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:Thanks Ax :) Yeah, I'll keep working on it too. I particularly like how the description of Farside turned out :D I think visitors will definitely be left with a positive impression of WikiIslam editors as a whole. It's kind of unique also because it highlights just how different we all are. Most sites do not have this sort of diversity when it comes to its members. That's pretty cool. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 02:27, 7 August 2014 (PDT)
:Thanks Ax :) Yeah, I'll keep working on it too. I particularly like how the description of Farside turned out :D I think visitors will definitely be left with a positive impression of WikiIslam editors as a whole. It's kind of unique also because it highlights just how different we all are. Most sites do not have this sort of diversity when it comes to its members. That's pretty cool. [[User:Sahab|--Sahab]] ([[User talk:Sahab|talk]]) 02:27, 7 August 2014 (PDT)
::I agree. I liked that too, 'prophet Farside'. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 02:39, 7 August 2014 (PDT)
::I agree. I liked that too, 'prophet Farside'. --[[User:Axius|Axius]] <span style="font-size:88%">([[User_talk:Axius|talk]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/Axius|contribs]])</span> 02:39, 7 August 2014 (PDT)
== Mistaken images ==
Hello, I stumbled accross this site on the [[Images of Jihad (Indonesia): Killings, Various Dates]] (I also saw [[Images of Jihad (Indonesia)]]), and there are several pictures which are mislabelled and have nothing to do with religious violence.
Chinese didn't actually get killed in the streets on May 1998. What happened was Indonesian looters attacked Chinese shops and tried stealing from them, but accidently started a fire and burned themselves to death instead. And then after that, dozens of rapes were reported against the Chinese. Most violence against Chinese was not killing, but attempted looting and raping. And thats no whitewashing of what happened, since rape is a very repulsive act.
The images of people getting killed on the streets and beheaded are from other incidents, like Dayaks vs Madurese in Kalimantan, in Sampit, Sambas, and Indonesians going on a witch hunt in Banyuwangi.
Dayaks (non-Muslims) and Malays (Muslims) both participated in killing Madurese (Muslims). It was not religious, but ethnic hatred.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia-pacific/1186401.stm
The images labeled as "Chinese" victims, are actually Madurese getting killed by Dayaks, or suspected "witches" getting killed in Banyuwangi. The people in those photos are all non-Chinese.
The original sources can be seen here-
http://www.fica.org/hr/lain/lain4.htm
http://www.fica.org/hr/ambon/ambon1/Sanggauledo1.html
http://www.fica.org/hr/ambon/ambon1/Sanggauledo2.html
http://www.oocities.org/~budis1/article/head_hunter2.htm
http://www.fica.org/hr/Sanggauledo.html
http://ceritaindonesia.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/dayak-vs-madura1.jpg
You can see that the Banyuwangi riots were not related to Muslims vs non-Muslims.
http://www.insideindonesia.org/weekly-articles/the-banyuwangi-murders
There IS real religious violence in Indonesia, like the images of the girl beheaded by Islamists in Sulawesi, but these other images are incorrect.
These are the specific images which should be removed-
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_17.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082447&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e1.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145124&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e2.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145136&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e3.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145149&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e4.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145205&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e5.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145219&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e6.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145232&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_19.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082509&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e7.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145244&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e8.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145256&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_10.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082327&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_13.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082403&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_15.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082425&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_17.jpg&filetimestamp=20110716082447&
http://wikiislam.net/w/index.php?title=File:Indonesia_e9.jpeg&filetimestamp=20110430145309&
Its because some idiots on internet forums in China heard what was going on in Indonesia in May 1998 with looting of Chinese stores and rapes, so when they looked up "Indonesia riots" on the internet, they got the wrong photos, and pasted these photos all over their forums. This is how these photos originally got mislabelled.
In Myanmar, some Islamists falsely took photos of earthquake victims in China and of Tibetan protestors setting themselves on fire, and labelled them as Rohingya Muslims getting killed by Burmese Buddhists.
What happened here is not deliberate like what those Islamists did, but it still needs to be corrected.[[User:Cleft|Cleft]] ([[User talk:Cleft|talk]]) 23:22, 10 August 2014 (PDT)
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