https://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=Thighing&feed=atom&action=historyThighing - Revision history2024-03-29T14:00:51ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.4https://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=Thighing&diff=135984&oldid=prevLightyears: The Sunni hadiths seem isolated and don't really fit with the rest of the legal tradition, not sure about Shia2023-01-18T01:57:17Z<p>The Sunni hadiths seem isolated and don't really fit with the rest of the legal tradition, not sure about Shia</p>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The Shi'a cleric Ayatollah Khomeini (d. 1989), the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, infamously permitted this act on wives who are pre-pubescent. Permission is also found in a handful of isolated fatwas which used to be in a large Sunni fatwa database (one is still present on the site). While Ayatollah Khomeini is an important 20th century Shia figure, neither they nor he cite hadiths or classical rulings that explicitly mention doing this act to minors. As such this would not count as representing any kind of Islamic legal consensus, historic or otherwise. However, the more general permission for [[Child Marriage in Islamic Law]] has the longstanding consensus of the legal scholars. Modern Muslim countries are increasingly changing their civil laws to raise the minimum age of marriage in an effort to reduce the prevalence of child marriages. Many Muslim groups also campaign for these changes. [http://www.un.org/youthenvoy/2016/03/new-un-initiative-aims-to-protect-millions-of-girls-from-child-marriage The UN] regards child marriage as a human rights violation and aims to eradicate it by 2030. The girl is vulnerable to spousal abuse and childhood pregnancy which greatly jeopardizes her health and future. </ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Iarabihttps://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=Thighing&diff=135163&oldid=prevIarabi: added reference to the meaning of thighing2022-04-05T00:31:06Z<p>added reference to the meaning of thighing</p>
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</table>Iarabihttps://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=Thighing&diff=135154&oldid=prevIarabi at 21:06, 3 April 20222022-04-03T21:06:42Z<p></p>
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</table>Iarabihttps://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=Thighing&diff=135153&oldid=prevIarabi at 20:23, 3 April 20222022-04-03T20:23:00Z<p></p>
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</table>Iarabihttps://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=Thighing&diff=135152&oldid=prevIarabi: Added another Fatwa.2022-04-03T20:18:25Z<p>Added another Fatwa.</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ruling # 12: It is not permission to have intercourse before (her) being 9 years old, be it in nikah (permanent marriage) or temporary marriage. And as for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, and '''thighing''' (ﺍﻟﺘﻔﺨﻴﺬ), there is no problem in it even with a suckling infant.}}The practice is also attested to and confirmed by Sunni legal sources. Islamweb.net, one of the largest Fatwa sites on the internet, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">used to include </del>the following Fatwa <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">as archived by Al-Shamilah library in 2009. The Fatwa on the site now doesn’t mention the kissing and the thighing of a child wife. The original Fatwa said:{{Quote|فتاوى الشبكة الإسلامية، المكتبة الشاملة، ج3 ص8445<BR></del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ruling # 12: It is not permission to have intercourse before (her) being 9 years old, be it in nikah (permanent marriage) or temporary marriage. And as for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, and '''thighing''' (ﺍﻟﺘﻔﺨﻴﺬ), there is no problem in it even with a suckling infant.}}The practice is also attested to and confirmed by Sunni legal sources. Islamweb.net, one of the largest Fatwa sites on the internet <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">that includes more than 250 thousand Fatwas</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">includes </ins>the following Fatwa:{{Quote|حكم مفاخذة الصغار، الشبكة الإسلامية فتوى رقم 77718<BR></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Answer: If the question refers to the thighing of a minor wife by her man then this is permissible. But if the question refers to the thighing of a non-wife then it's forbidden whether it's the thiging of a minor or an adult, a male or a female. </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Answer: If the question refers to the thighing of a minor wife by her man then this is permissible. But if the question refers to the thighing of a non-wife then it's forbidden whether it's the thiging of a minor or an adult, a male or a female. </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>}}<br /></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">}}The following is a Fatwa from the same website archived by Al-Maktabah Al-Shamilah library in 2009. The Fatwa on the site now no longer mentions the kissing and the thiging of a minor. The archived Fatwa says:{{Quote|فتاوى الشبكة الإسلامية، المكتبة الشاملة، ج3 ص8445<BR></ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ruling # 12: It is not permission to have intercourse before (her) being 9 years old, be it in nikah (permanent marriage) or temporary marriage. And as for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, and '''thighing''' (ﺍﻟﺘﻔﺨﻴﺬ), there is no problem in it even with a suckling infant.}}The practice is also attested to and confirmed by Sunni legal sources. Islamweb.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">com</del>, one of the largest Fatwa sites on the internet, used to include the following Fatwa as archived by Al-Shamilah library in 2009. The Fatwa on the site now doesn’t mention the kissing and the thighing of a child wife. The original Fatwa said:{{Quote|فتاوى الشبكة الإسلامية، المكتبة الشاملة، ج3 ص8445<BR></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ruling # 12: It is not permission to have intercourse before (her) being 9 years old, be it in nikah (permanent marriage) or temporary marriage. And as for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, and '''thighing''' (ﺍﻟﺘﻔﺨﻴﺬ), there is no problem in it even with a suckling infant.}}The practice is also attested to and confirmed by Sunni legal sources. Islamweb.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">net</ins>, one of the largest Fatwa sites on the internet, used to include the following Fatwa as archived by Al-Shamilah library in 2009. The Fatwa on the site now doesn’t mention the kissing and the thighing of a child wife. The original Fatwa said:{{Quote|فتاوى الشبكة الإسلامية، المكتبة الشاملة، ج3 ص8445<BR></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ruling # 12: It is not permission to have intercourse before (her) being 9 years old, be it in nikah (permanent marriage) or temporary marriage. And as for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, and '''thighing''' (ﺍﻟﺘﻔﺨﻴﺬ), there is no problem in it even with a suckling infant.}}The practice is also attested to and confirmed by Sunni legal sources. Islamweb.com, one of the largest Fatwa sites on the internet, used to include the following Fatwa as archived by Al-Shamilah library in 2009. The Fatwa on the site now doesn’t mention the kissing and the thighing of a child wife <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">even if she’s not ready yet for sexual intercourse</del>. The original Fatwa said:{{Quote|فتاوى الشبكة الإسلامية، المكتبة الشاملة، ج3 ص8445<BR></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ruling # 12: It is not permission to have intercourse before (her) being 9 years old, be it in nikah (permanent marriage) or temporary marriage. And as for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, and '''thighing''' (ﺍﻟﺘﻔﺨﻴﺬ), there is no problem in it even with a suckling infant.}}The practice is also attested to and confirmed by Sunni legal sources. Islamweb.com, one of the largest Fatwa sites on the internet, used to include the following Fatwa as archived by Al-Shamilah library in 2009. The Fatwa on the site now doesn’t mention the kissing and the thighing of a child wife. The original Fatwa said:{{Quote|فتاوى الشبكة الإسلامية، المكتبة الشاملة، ج3 ص8445<BR></div></td></tr>
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